Why Does God Allow Pain and Suffering?
by Jen Hatmaker on September 17th, 2013

A very special and rare collaboration is happening among churches in Austin this fall. Over 350 churches – Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopal, Presbys, Non-denoms – have come together in a citywide sermon series called “Explore God.” Across all these boundaries, we are discussing the same Giant Life Questions in our sanctuaries and small groups for seven weeks:
  • Does Life Have a Purpose?
  • Is There a God?
  • Why Does God Allow Pain and Suffering?
  • Is Christianity Too Narrow in Our Culture?
  • Is Jesus Really God?
  • Is the Bible Reliable?
  • Can I Know God Personally? 
I’ve never seen anything like it. I am deeply proud of my brothers and sisters for setting aside differences for the sake of the city. It makes me incredibly weepy.
This Sunday is Question #3: Why does God allow pain and suffering?
Suffering transcends all class, race, ethnicity, culture, privilege. The wealthiest, most successful man on earth could lose his only daughter in a car wreck this afternoon. There is no corner untouched by grief, no demographic, no alliance. If you haven’t suffered, just live longer.

With anything so viscerally devastating, the Christian community has long tried to explain it. At the beginning of the written word, we see this tension: Job has suffered in ways incomprehensible leaving a wake of crushing confusion. God tells us it was Satan, Job tells us it was God, his friends tell Job it was him. The finger-pointing is instinctual, because what we have always wanted to know when tragedy strikes is WHY.
To this end, the church has a history of formulizing suffering, giving it tidy origins and endings and whitewashing the horrid, debilitating middle. We’ve assessed the complicated nuances of universal sorrow and assigned it categories, roots, principles. Or in the face of uncertain causes, we recite cold theology:
"Well, you know God is sovereign."
In an attempt to understand the ordinary grief of human life, I fear we’ve reduced a complicated reality to an unmanageable burden; we’ve put a yoke of despair on people who mourn, assigning accolades to those who “suffer well” and, in ways overt and subtle, urging our brokenhearted to buck up. Then adding insult to injury, we fall into the trap of explaining suffering, as if any one of us could possibly understand its eternal scope.
Here is what we know about suffering from Scripture:

  • Sometimes people suffer because of self-inflicted misery. Humans have long been their own worst enemies. We are a self-destructive people. Adam, Eve, Jonah, David, Saul, Judas.

  • Sometimes people suffer at the sins of others, which God would never cause, endorse, or initiate. It is contrary to his holy, perfect nature. Bathsheba, Daniel, Tamar, Hosea, The Good Samaritan, Paul.

  • Sometimes people suffer through no human fault at all. The best of God’s saints had their night. This is no indicator of divine disfavor. Life is simply hard.

  • Sometimes people suffer because people get sick and die. This happens to every person, family, and community on earth. There is zero immunity from death. Even Jesus wept salty, human tears at death and the grief of his friends.

  • Sometimes people suffer because we live on a physical earth involving tornadoes, earthquakes, wildfires, tsunamis. Natural disasters are a part of any living, shifting, fluctuating planet. (And the longer we irresponsibly plunder and harm it, the greater it will groan and creak and protest, but that is a different blog.)

  • Sometimes people suffer because we have a vicious enemy who hates us and is out to steal, kill, and destroy everything redemptive and beautiful.
The point is, there is no formula for suffering. There is no one answer. There is no pat explanation. Simply stating that God is sovereign is woefully incomplete theology, as Scripture has clearly identified numerous root causes of suffering, some of which are entirely incompatible with God’s character. We cannot possibly explain sorrow in a 25-minute sermon with three points that all begin with an M.
To put the burden of stoic acceptance onto our people is cruel and unusual, as is suggesting their suffering is likely punitive. Our platitudes will fall dangerously short. In the face of brokenheartedness, we need not counsel people in the way of spiritual justification, for we know not what we say. Nor should we lead them in the way of tidy grief, for we heap burning coals on aching heads.
Suffering invites us to be radically human with one another, perhaps doing nothing more than reaching across the table, clasping hands, and weeping together. We are afforded the chance to create a safe place for someone else to mourn; nothing is needed but space, proximity, presence, empathy. You cannot possibly give an answer, so don’t try. Grief cannot be sidestepped; it must be endured, so may we be a people who endure with one another rather than constantly mitigating, explaining, propping up. Let’s just hold one another through the dark night and wait for the sun to rise.
Though it is human nature to master all knowledge, we simply must concede that so much of life is a mystery, as is the way God moves and redeems. How can we possibly fathom it all? We don’t always get the answer to WHY this side of heaven, so we need to stop talking about spiritual mysteries as if we are in possession of all understanding.
Here is what we know about suffering and what we should cling to:

  • God is impossibly loving. He loves us. He loves our families. He loves creation.

  • God restores things; all of history points to a God who makes sad things right.

  • God is very much paying attention. He is on the move - healing and transforming. He can do this. This is what He does.

  • There is nothing too broken that God cannot mend and redeem. Really. Nothing.

  • God doesn’t tempt, abuse, endorse wickedness, abandon, or hate.

  • In our darkest moment, when we are crushed, Jesus is as close as our own breath.

  • He has given us to one another as agents of love and grace and safety.

  • He told us 100s of times to comfort each other, making sure we are cared for.

  • Jesus wept over death and grief; shed your tears, friend. We have a Savior who cries.

  • It is not the Body’s responsibility to explain why. We are family. We circle the wagons. We make casseroles. We weep with those who weep.
Pastors in Austin and everywhere else this weekend, friends, church, let’s be gentle with our broken. Let’s hold fragile hearts with loving hands, terribly careful with our theology, using it as a balm, not a bludgeon. May we be slow to formulize and quick to empathize, because life is so very hard and until God makes all things new, people are dying for a cold cup of water in their suffering.
If you are suffering today, imagine me grabbing both of your hands and inviting you to mourn; we will stand watch while you grieve. No need to pretend or whitewash. That is unnecessary among brothers and sisters. We may not get a why, but we know the how: together. Jesus is so good and He loves you. The sun will rise with healing in its wings, but until it does, may we all learn to be a soft place to fall, cushioning the blow of suffering until Jesus turns it all into glory.

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Talysa - September 17th, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Kathy Greene - October 20th, 2014 at 4:49 PM
Jen, How I wish it were true! But the Bible says it ISN'T, in many scriptures in both the Old and New Testaments. You need to realize that much of the Bible is both a cover story to disguise God's true nature, which is overwhelmingly negative and NOT loving, and a recruiting tool He uses to gain the allegiance and absolute, self-sacrificing obedience of those who will heed His word. God has eternal purposes in mind for these select few ultra-faithful.
Over the years and with much scriptural and doctrinal study, prayer, learning, contemplation, and keen observation, I have put together a more cohesive and comprehensive picture of God's nature and long-term purposes than have most Christian clergy and laity/membership.
Life IS difficult enough without being further disadvantaged by the lack of sufficient knowledge of God's true intent and purposes.
I do applaud you sincerely, though, for your heartfelt efforts to provide comfort to those who need it most. You're right - too many Christians (and others, i.e. Muslims) glory in using doctrine to emotionally torment grieving and suffering people. I view individuals like these as spiritual and personal bullies and losers.
Nicole - December 11th, 2015 at 10:27 PM
Yeah, I'd like to know what your opinion of God's true nature is...
Cathy - December 12th, 2015 at 9:18 AM
Those who believe that God is the author of suffering have missed a crucial point - that satan is currently in control of the world we live in. After Eden, the world became a dangerous labyrinth, custom designed by the enemy. We can weave our way blindly through the maze if we choose. Sadly, most of us will choose our own paths, ignoring the help that Jesus offers. I did that for most of my life. I discovered the spiritual realm on my own, and finally came to realize that the spirit extends far beyond our understanding of nature - overwhelmingly vast and devoid of love and hope - a truly terrifying place without God. For those who choose to go it alone because of their own experience and self taught wisdom, I feel the deepest sympathy. But our Father has given us His guide to follow. He provides us with the instructions we need to find Him. His greatest joy is for us to discover Him and receive the supernatural gifts we need to live life abundantly. He is waiting with open arms, and a love far greater than our human minds can imagine. The best possible thing we can do for one another is to encourage and light the way towards Him.

Irene Buswell - August 20th, 2018 at 12:31 PM
No one can answer the question: Why doesn't God, who is all powerful, loving, knowing, with a blink of an eye can stop the horrific suffering. We suffer enough on earth knowing one day we will die. That should be enough. We suffer everyday trying to figure why we are here if all God is doing is putting us through pain and horrific worldly happenings killing hundreds, thousands of innocent people and all he has to do is appear to all the world and they would fall on their knees and believe. Why, Why, doesn't he do this???Why are we paying for Adam and Eve's sin if God wants us to forgive and he did not forgive Adam and Eve. We are being punished for their sins, we had nothing to do with them.. Why????????
Pam - October 5th, 2018 at 6:04 AM
Irene, I know you are sincere in your questioning. I am a Christian. When I was young and had stamina I seemed to go through the trials of life certainly bruised, but with hope and healing. I never doubted the goodness of God. I was able to move to the next thing trusting Jesus would bring me through. Now that I am older and have had bad health for 10 years I too have begun to question His goodness and the wisdom of His plan. It has been the biggest test of my faith. I sure don't feel more Christ like! I do know this,I believe the Bible is God's word. I believe everything the Bible says. I know I was on a path that was destructive and miserable. I know when I gave my heart to him that he came into my life and changed me. This life is very hard sometimes. I have been reading Psalms. Not just reading but really studying and cross referencing the scriptures. It brings me peace. The scriptures are full of real people and the struggles they lived through. I can't answer your question. I don't know why God chose to do things this way. I am convinced that as prophecy has been fulfilled in the past it will be in the future. I have given my life to him. If I believe he is God then there is no place else for me to go. I have to trust him. When I see him in Heaven I know all my questions will be answered. It is certainly ok to ask him questions now.
josee houle - May 29th, 2019 at 3:43 PM
I agree with you. From what I understand, God made a bet with the devil...yep! and now he lets the devil rules the earth. I guess we are insignificant human beings in God's eye. he lets the devil give us sufferance over and over and over again. Look what he let the devil do to Job...the most faithful worshiper of God. hmmm merciful God???? not so sure. FAIRFUL God....not so sure either. my question is...why did God put us on this earth????? to suffer???? I don't accept this answer at all. I am a good person and I don't deserve this but yet many mean people have a beautiful life.....WHY WHY WHY
Debbie - June 8th, 2019 at 9:12 PM
Well put Cathy. Alot of people blame God for their suffering . But, do not understand why he lets it happen. That would be my question . Why does he allow it ?

Daisy - April 1st, 2020 at 5:59 AM
People out there are too scared too ask this question Believe me ,you have asked ,now seek the answer; Man created 'God' a marketing ,politicking weapon.
Anyway , a born Catholic of 52 yrs, I felt the burden lifted off my shoulders when no more question the God that doesnt exist.
I'm grateful I wont die a fool, wondering if I'd go to heaven ,hell or purgatory.I believe in humanity & practise it .
I'm just deeply sorry for those highly educated, VVIPs of the society who are blinded till death. My derest
Or perhaps pretend to be, again its the religious man's stage.
No offence meant... just sharing my recovery..

Sheila - December 13th, 2015 at 2:59 PM
Actually if you search the scriptures God does purpose to give us suffering to transform us into Christ's image. In Isaiah 53:4 about Jesus - Yet we esteemed HIm stricken SMITTEN BY GOD AND AFFLICTED. God also chose His servant Job to suffer though Job was righteous and God placed Job before Satan to cause suffering (God is in control of Satan) so Job would know and understand the Lord more deeply and what a testimony! Jesus suffered and that was God's purpose from the beginning that He might die for our sins. Suffering is a part of God's plan and His ways are not our ways. We don't want to suffer or have others suffer but God uses it for His glory and purpose which are higher than the heavens.
Keep in mind that those who use scriptures may misuse them but sometimes they are used in love and the person hearing doesn't want to be convicted. We have to be filled and led by the Holy Spirit to know when to use His Word and how and why, humbled before the Lord to follow His will.
Treva - May 31st, 2016 at 9:25 AM
Transformation can mean many things.people are transformed into what they feel is appropriate to themselves not God.
Marjorie Chambers - July 9th, 2018 at 12:26 PM
Oh please. Of course God helps us through suffering. Its not a tool. James 1: 13
Andrew Chambers - January 9th, 2019 at 1:19 AM
God forsaked and abandoned me. I am suffering for all most 4 years now...Where is He? Gods plan is for us to end our lives in pain and sorrow; and hope we see our loved ones again? He can give me a F on this test..At least my wife made it to Heaven..
Jennifer - March 22nd, 2017 at 10:31 AM
Your the devil.. you can't speak for God's... where Jenny trys to offer hope and confort to others, here you come along satan helper full of Zell to destroy that hope.. For one thing we know your kind and where your headed, worrie about that and fix it... You have no heart nor love of others, she isn't wrong in fact she is right on the money. Thank you Jenny for sharing Do continue to share Please.. Do be Blessed..
pam Lattin - April 8th, 2017 at 10:10 AM
Kathy...i feel so very very sorry for you.
Shelondria - October 5th, 2017 at 5:01 PM
Indeed, don't we all.Bringing the story, not truth about ajesus and His lifestyle and word to people in a pretty little package. No conviction or reverence, just expectation from God.
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Shelondria Gay - February 13th, 2019 at 6:48 PM
This sounds like a sick thought from a sick mind,resulting in a sick heart.I must say
you need to find your true identity and you can identify who you are & your purpose.
Kathie Foxwell Chipouras - May 16th, 2019 at 6:14 AM
If God is so awful and unloving why in the world would He send His ONLY SON to die for US?
Dennis Brown - November 28th, 2014 at 3:05 PM
How can you be so brainwashed!. What kind of world are we living in when a "supposed god" allows old and young to suffer unmercifully. Why does he allow this...is it because of his enlarged ego to allow a young person who has hardly experienced the joys of life t o suffer and die, or to allow the elderly to suffer pain through the last days of their life? How narcissistic can he/she be?

Why does innocent people have to die in earthquakes and tsunamis?

I read recently where a group of young children were being bussed home from a religious retreat and a boulder came loose, hit the bus and killed quite a few children. Why would a loving god allow that?

Don't give me the answer that he wanted them in heaven...how absurd! Why did he allow them to be born in the first place if he wanted them in this supposed place called heaven.
Religion is nothing but a crock! ...A belief in a sky fairy that don't exist!

When you can show me a snake or a donkey that talks, let me know.

Why did he kill all the men, women and children and save only Noah and his family in the great flood. Imagine all the bloated bodies of the little innocent children floating around for days.....just because your god made a mistake a destroyed everything on earth so he could start over again.

I thought he was supposed to be perfect and made a perfect world in the first place.

Oh blame it on Eve for biting the apple that the talking snake persuaded her to do...how foolish!

And then he curses all women and causes them to suffer in childbirth for generation after generation after generation. Quite the loving god you have there! Quite the forgiving god you have there! Give me a break!
You're worshiping a nobody because if he was a somebody he would have saved all those innocent men. women and children who innocently walked to their deaths in the gas chambers Hitler had erected.

He could light a burning bush and feed thousands with a few loaves of bread and a few fish...yet he couldn't stop the holocaust and refuses to help the thousands of children who die of starvation every day.

I'd rather spend my time in hell ( another fairy tale ) than in a place where we have to lick his feet every day.

What a crock!!

chuck - December 2nd, 2014 at 9:52 AM
If chance be the
Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky,
and when you hear

State of Emergency!
Sniper kills ten!
Troops on rampage!
Whites go looting!
Bomb blasts school!

It is but the sound of man
worshiping his maker.

Steve Turner
Cary - January 21st, 2015 at 6:16 AM
It's amazing how angry atheists are. There must be some tragic story to their lives, unloving parents, or at least unGodly parents while growing up. We are free moral agents...God created the perfect world and man chose to sin. Fortunately, He sent His son who suffered more than us all and died for us.
Shannon - December 13th, 2015 at 4:02 AM
I come from worshipping parents & a family that had a STRONG religious background. However, I too question why. Why are some of us given a life that would cause others to give up? Rape, abuse, seeing death of loved obes over & over again, have our body fail us in child birth & expierance multiple miscarriages, and the list could go on. However, you continue to live your life with purpose & the knowledge that you don't know another person's struggle, so you are kind always & allow your smile to mask your own pain & suffering while you are strong for everyone else & cry silently behind closed doors. You watch those that have wronged you, that you've forgiven, to float thru life & continue to be rewarded for their bad, ungreatful, unsympathetic behaviors. Why are they rewarded, when you constantly are thrown obstacles that would destroy others? They say "God doesn't give us more than we can handle", "what doesn't kill us makes us stronger"; however it's time God stop giving all the burdens to some & not others.
Larry - June 25th, 2017 at 10:53 PM
Kim - February 12th, 2017 at 11:38 AM
Who told you these truths...why are you the chosen one who knows all.
The simple intelligent answer is that the idea that there is meaningless purpose in own lives is so terrifying that the comfort of a all powerful being is very conforming indeed. How do you know that God created the word, this is the statement of a child. All you knowledge of God is through 3rd party information.
Why would your God make my beautiful sister suffer for 10 yrs in agony...a test from God.
The concept that when we die is so distressing that we need to feel comfort in an after life.
That is the sad state of being human.
Taylor - December 11th, 2015 at 1:59 PM
Dennis, you wouldn't have taken the time to read this article and post this answer if you weren't deep in your soul still searching for the answer to suffering. Keep searching, I believe and will pray boldly that God will open your eyes to see the wonders of his love one day!
Becky - June 6th, 2018 at 10:26 AM
I was wondering the same thing. Why would any one be reading this if they were not still seeking for answers. Answers only found in a relationship with the Lord, sometimes the Only answer is to keep, "Faith" for He know better than us.
Julie - December 11th, 2015 at 4:10 PM
God loves you anyway.
Heidi - December 12th, 2015 at 3:20 AM
You have a lot of anger, I can understand that, pain is awful, I see these terrible things happening everywhere, and I also think "why".. but it is faith in God, that His plan is in affect. I will pray for you, may God comfort your heart, and open your eyes to Him. This world is temporary, we are here to worship God, He is our Creator, He has created this world, if we choose Him, and live our lives for Him, He will reward us in Heaven. There will be no pain, there will be no death. He wants us to chose Him, he sent his son to die for all man kinds sins, all of them, He watched His son die on the cross for all his creations (even you), actually there was so much sin, He literally had to turn away as His Son died, because of all the sin on Him. He is our Creator, we sin, we are born in sin, He loves us, and wants us to want Him. He wants us to worship Him as we should, He created us. Yes, God wants us to worship Him, He wants us to think of Him, to talk to Him, to lean on Him, to live for Him. In return He will reward us in Heaven with everlasting life, with a "great heaven, and we will worship Him in heaven also" So yes, kind of weird if you think about it.. He just created us to worship Him. Yes, but again, He is the Creator, and there are many rewards for our loyalty to God. There is a heaven and there is a hell. Fear that, if you chose to not serve God, He is a just God, there is no sin allowed in heaven. He loves us but, He will send us to Hell.
Michelle - December 12th, 2015 at 9:28 AM
It is a mystery Dennis....the Creator doesn't care if we suffer, he knows we are going to die, and in my lifetime - the only purpose I find is making it easier for the next guy - and then....there are moments of intense LIFE, where I see God - in those brave fools charging in to save people at the World Trade Center, at the fools who rescue animals from suffering, at my co-workers in ICU, often covered in blood and feces while soothing the critically ill.......The line in the Bible we don't hear quoted very often is "The kingdom of God lies within YOU" and the world is awful....but for the grace of each of us.....Big hugs my friend.

Cathy - December 12th, 2015 at 10:02 AM
It's easy to assume that God is the author of suffering when people say God is sovereign. But the bible tells us that satan is in control of this world. We ought to look at the spiritual realm for answers to things that don't seem to make sense in the physical.

Cathy - December 12th, 2015 at 10:48 AM
It's easy to assume that God is the author of suffering when people say God is sovereign. But the bible tells us that satan is in control of this world. We ought to look at the spiritual realm for answers to things that don't seem to make sense in the physical.

Kseniya - March 13th, 2016 at 2:11 AM
I completely feel where you are coming from. And I'm sorry for anybody who has told you that there is an answer for a question like "why did God let that happen or why he not stop certain things from happening." Because the truth is, there isn't one. Or at least not one that we understand. While asking the questions why does bad things happen to good people, or why does God let bad things happen, you also have to ask all the other questions. Why do good things happen to bad people? Why do good things happen to bad people and why do bad things happen to bad people. And Jen made a very good point here. It's apart of life. Because of our free will, we are able to make good decisions and bad decisions . But with every decision we make, comes a consequence. This consequence is either good or bad but will always effect those around does no matter how big or small. So going back to the whole entire thing where "why did God let like person get shot when they obviously didn't derserve it?" Well because someone chose to shoot them" but the answer to why did God let that mass genicide happen for why did he not stop it? It's like an answer to a polynomial equation. You never will have an exact answer, only a simplified equation. And the simplified equation part is only that if God was to stop every bad things from happening, then are whole entire "free will thing" wouldn't be so free will anymore. Anybody could just do whatever and no consequence would happen. Which actually to think about, is pretty much a robotic world where no matter what you do, it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect you or anybody around you. But does that means that God doesn't stop bad things from happening? Of course not! And maybe it's a bit weird to think about. But if God stopped something from happening, how do we know about it? Like to say that someone was going to drop a nuclear bomb on the US today. Well if God were to of stopped it, we would of never of known it was going to happen in the first place.
Another thing people like to assume is that it was God's plan to have pain and suffering, but that's just a misconception. We know from the bible that when God made the earth he made it perfect. Everything he does and plans is to be righteous and perfect, but again because of our whole entire free will thing we kind of ruined it. God's plan for our lives was always to be perfect but because we chose to choose our own way of living, his planned kind of got wrecked. Now, does that mean he's done with us and can't use us? No, he can turn all things to be for the glory of God. Which we can see all the time! Take the slaughtering of Nate Saint and Jim Elliot. I would suggest readin the story. But to end, man kind was never meant to hold all knowledge. Obviously encaustic we only use 11% of our brains, which is why we can't answer questions like the ones that have been descussed. But as for being w Christian, you get an eternal perspective of things which get you through the pain and the suffering. For me I understand God had a bigger plan for me when I was taken from my family and put in a place that was unknown to me. when my cousin was shot and when my uncle died. Why did it happen? I don't know. But I do know through it God has brought me joy and has enabled me to amazing things that would of never happened of it wasn't for the pain and suffering I went through
Debbie - June 11th, 2016 at 7:00 PM
It's unfortunate that I have to agree with you. In all my religious studies, this same question came up frequently. Another question of mine is that if Adam, the first "perfect" human created, sinned so early on, wasn't it inevitable that if he hadn't sinned, one of his offspring would have eventually? Which means only one thing, we were apparently created with the prospect of sinning right from the start..a huge flaw if you will, from the start.

I studied a court case recently where a man was being tried for the kidnapping, torture, mutiliation, rape and murder of a young boy. He was 6 years old when he was kidnapped on the way home from school. He was tortured and sodomized for 3 days straight before he was killed, dismembered and shoved into a trash bag and disposed of in a forest. The man standing trial was quoted saying that during the 3 days he tormented and raped this young boy, the boy continuously cried out for his mommy and for god to please, please save him. His mom obviously didn't have the knowledge of where the boy was being kept or I'm sure, would have risked her life and done ANYthing possible to save him. But god..could he see what was taking place over the 3 torturous days? Could he hear the boys pleading for the man to stop and his cries for help? Did he just look the other way? Will he reward this child in heaven for all his suffering and pain..is that what his plan of action was? If I came upon a stranger that was being attacked or suffering, I'd like to think I would do whatever possible to end the situation. But a god that is being worshipped for his loving and kind ways, and has supposedly absolute power, does NOTHING at all?

The question of why god allows such suffering and does nothing, has been an ongoing struggle for me to comprehend or understand. On every website, books and blogs I've read on this subject, there has been absolutely No answer that comes close to explaining or giving a sense of contentment with their reasoning.
Carr - April 7th, 2017 at 8:53 PM
I have asked these questions and I believe the answer as to why God allows these things is for judgment...judgment against the person who has done these deeds...he will pay for eternity if he doesn't repent. And the boy will be brought home to God. It doesn't seem fair here now to the boy or to his family. But if God stopped every evil man in his tracks immediately there would be no test or testing of hearts. Fear would grip man not to commit these acts even though they were in his heart and God would never be able to sift the truly repentant man from the man that didn't do evil due to immediate retribution. No one will have an excuse on Judgment Day. If he stopped each man before it happened there would be no judgment. When I ask God...the answer I receive I believe that I heard is this..."for judgment". Believe me, it will come. It may not look right here but from eternity's perspective one day it will. All wrongs be will righted and that is my hope. I hope this helps someone.
Buzzy - April 25th, 2017 at 9:07 AM
Excellent response!
Paul - June 24th, 2018 at 3:39 PM
That is an appalling argument. You really need to re-think your theology, because it stinks and renders Christ's crucifixion null and void. Clearly, it wasn't enough, and it actually gives credence to the Judaic/Islamic belief that Christ didn't die at all and was not the Messiah. Hence why little boys have to suffer such horrific deaths. It's all jam tomorrow. Stop making excuses for God's failed human experiment.
Philistine - July 27th, 2016 at 4:19 PM
God is evil if there is a god he just make people to kill them an destroy them. Why put them on earth to go through the torments it's so sorrowful an horrible
Tina - October 13th, 2017 at 4:14 PM
Dennis, I can feel and relate to your pain, anguish and lack of understanding. In fact, I wonder everyday for many, many years. Perhaps we have those questions to lead us to question and thus a quest for answers, learning as we go. There are many different opinions regarding religion and interpretations of the same. In my humble opinion there is no one right and simple truth and I believe that is no accident. I have spent years researching these very questions and I firmly believe there are layers of truth in religion and much of what seems impossible is only allegory and parables veiled from students not yet ready for that particular level of understanding. When taken literally these allegorical scriptures lead us to disbelief in the scriptures as a whole. The bottom line on your most crucial question regarding suffering is that it is through suffering, our own and others, that we are taught compassion for one another ... My yearning to ease your suffering is a perfect example and I have never met you .... However, I have stood in shoes similar to yours regarding this topic. I truly believe it works out perfectly for each person's spiritual evolution as painful as it may be there simply is no other way to learn these spiritual lessons. It takes suffering and lots of it to bring us to the place we aspire to be. I know this as truth in my life. The harder it gets the better I become in a spiritual sense. I hope this helps you glean some understanding and don't forget that those who leave this earthly realm are but gone only from our earthly perception. Much love and peace to you.
Victor Elango - April 19th, 2018 at 2:06 AM
Your cry is understandable. We too had seen all the tragedies happening to the innocents and we too are seeking/questioning the truth behind this if any.

If Freewill is the root cause for all the tragedies happening to the innocents, the idea of giving 'freewill to the mankind' itself a sin. But without freewill we are nothing but machines and animals.

Freewill was given with good intentions. Man shall realize God's love first and in turn he/she shall love God. If there is no freewill there is no space for realization. A machine can realize nothing.

But the coin of 'freewill' have another side that is man can go against the good intentions of God. If it happens (it happened) what is the fall back plan of God.

Simple, He put His own life at stake to bring back man who realize that he did mistake and turning back to where he deviated from God's will that is loving each other.

Jesus was put to death by the people who do not want to turn back or not interested to love others except themselves.

But who realized the love of God expressed through His Son's death were saved and empowered to love each other. Now it is a mixed world, where some are not at all willing to love others, some are realizing the mistakes and some are saved.

The saved and realizing people are tormented, exploited and hated by the other group.

And death is for some a relief/escape and for some curse/punishment. Sufferings of the saved people can be equated to a shock absorber that reduces the pain of people who are turning back to their father's home.

Remember the prodigal son parable here.

Thanks.....God is really existing as said in Holy Bible and His Love is forever, He does have zero ego, that's why He was able to humble Himself to come as a child in Mary's womb. God Loves Us As He Loves Himself..... is the bottom line.

Glenn - June 19th, 2018 at 6:49 AM
The reasons for human suffering often remain a secret to human beings.

There are many times (like in the life of Job) where we find God elusive, feeling he cannot be found.

Though God is intensely concerned about humans, he does not always answer their most agonizing questions.

We are often challenged to triumph in faith in time of suffering. Yet scripture is clear that a full understanding of God%u2019s reasons for events is not a prerequisite for faithfulness even amid %u201Cterrible%u201D suffering.

How much is hidden from our human perspective simply in the existence of a %u201Cdivine-government%u201D in a created world.
lala - December 11th, 2016 at 4:16 PM
god is shit
Lou - January 10th, 2017 at 6:12 AM
My earthly father would never allow me to suffer like this hopelessly. I Had many many good people offer prayers
I still hurt
Samarpan Thorat - April 29th, 2017 at 2:28 AM
Thank you, Jen, for sharing this one. I know if God allows us to go in suffering then he has a plan to take us out of it. Gold is purified when it goes on fire. The Same way we also purify in suffering.

God bless you.

gary - December 2nd, 2017 at 7:38 PM
We skeptics and you believers could continue to exchange historical evidence for and against each other's beliefs, but I suggest that there is another very quick way to determine who is right: Common sense.

I believe that the following common sense statement proves your entire belief system false: A Being who claims to be all-powerful, perfectly good, and perfectly just would never stand by and do nothing while a small child is being raped and murdered. Yet such acts of unimaginable, horrific violence occur on earth every day of every year and have been occurring every day of every year for all of human existence.

The Christian god is either a liar (and the epitome of evil) or he is non-existent.

I encourage you to read the following story of a little girl gang-raped at the age of nine who then asked her Sunday School teacher why Jesus allowed her to be raped:

Ashley Greene - November 28th, 2018 at 3:36 AM
It may be beautifull but once i believed in god but im really giveing up on because i believed in god now i dont i pray simetimes i know that they. Wont come true but i just gave up because if god was real he wouldn't ha e let people get raped,murdered,get disease, not let the en world get destroyed by ppeople,not let people get abused,not get people die,not let people get peoplekidnapped But this is my opinion
Hayt - May 15th, 2019 at 10:35 PM
We were created completely incapable of withstanding nature. If not for what was learned from the "fallen" angels we would know nothing at all. Two thirds of the angels remain in heaven and another third wreak havoc on human existence.
Terri - August 25th, 2019 at 7:43 PM
We are living in Satan%u2019s playground now! God does not allow or like suffering of any sort. Jesus paid in full to end Satan%u2019s reign! Anything else is a miss truth. God is aware of all and his faithful will see the completion of his plan to bring back his earth to perfection it will be coming soon in fact it is on the way now God%u2019s Golden Age is taking over Satan%u2019s hands and handiwork is coming to a close.
Eric - February 18th, 2020 at 8:24 AM
I dont know if god is real or if the devil is real. I do know that everyone has a past. I have lost everything. For one I watch my brother shoot him self in the head with a flare gun at the age of 6. I watch my mom take her last breath at the age of 9 I was forced by my family member at the age of 10 to do a very bad drug just to get warm on a snow day when I had nothing to wear. At the age of 15 watch my grandmother die and my dad at 16 so I can%u2019t say what true and what isn%u2019t but I do kno that everyone has to believe in something so why not just believe in a better tomorrow we all have our problems we all have are fears but that%u2019s what makes us humans if u cut us we all bleed the same color and with all the post I have read I kno that everyone here is looking for something most of us have yet to find it but for the ones who have please be kind in your words because the ones who haven%u2019t need the boost up believe in what u want just kno somewhere out in the world someone feels your exact pain and just needs a boost up sorry if you all don%u2019t like my post but I%u2019ve seen to much negative on this everything does not have to be about bible thumping it helps just to hear the people having the same problems as u and how you have overcome them
Bronwyn Lea - September 17th, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Jen, someone emailed me just yesterday asking this question and asking if I could refer them to blogs or articles on this. THANK YOU JESUS for His timing on this.
Louise - September 17th, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Another blog on a related theme: http://blog.dearchristiancounselor.com/2012/10/16/the-lesson-of-lament/
Shauna - September 17th, 2013 at 12:46 PM
I love you.
Kim - September 17th, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Tears streaming, you nailed it!
Lori - September 17th, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Thank you. I've felt the judgment of others as though actually grieving reflects a weak faith or because none of the platitudes soothed the balm on their time schedule something must be wrong. Loss, pain, anger, hurt are all part of the human experience. You're right, if you haven't experienced it, just live longer.
Debbie Bowles Walker - September 18th, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Amen to your comment!!
Melinda - September 18th, 2013 at 2:54 PM
I agree, Lori, especially with the part about "on their time schedule". Grief comes in waves over a period of time, and those who haven't been there often just don't get it and aren't willing to "ride it out" with others. May our own experiences lead to patience and compassion with others in the future.
Susan - September 17th, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Yes! Yes! Yes! Just what we needed. We don't have the answers, but we don't need to. We suffer it together, loving one another, being on the "ark" of life together. That's what He does for us.
Leslie - September 17th, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Linds - September 17th, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Yes. Just that. Yes.
Alley - September 17th, 2013 at 12:59 PM
I just love what you have to say. Always. God speaks volumes through your words. Thank you.

Whitney - September 17th, 2013 at 12:56 PM
What a wonderful post. I am going to bookmark this. As someone who has suffered, you are right on about how we should treat and help one another. God bless.
sarah t - September 17th, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Ruth - September 17th, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Last year, my oldest daughter had to have emergency surgery, my husband lost his full time job, my youngest daughter was born - suddenly in the delivery room we discovered she has Down Syndrome, three months after that my mother drops dead... yet in all of the storm - being hit blow after blow - I discovered a new realm to God - His Sovereignty. I never questioned why - but embraced it all through His grace. I take comfort in the fact that everything is Father-Filtered - nothing can happen or will happen to me without Him knowing and I let go of expectations on my end and embrace both the good and bad days. While I certainly don't agree with anyone saying "God is sovereign - so deal with it" in such a cold manner ... for me there is huge comfort in knowing that indeed He is Sovereign. He knows. It is for me, the most comforting in my sorrow and worry.
Leah - September 17th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Agreed, Ruth. Thank you for saying this. When we lost our daughter last year, God's sovereignty was not something I thought of as a bludgeon, but rather a healing balm. Knowing that all things really WILL work together for my good, knowing that there is NOTHING I endure that God has not appointed, gives me great strength and comfort. I do appreciate the information and tone of this post, overall, though!
Mariann - September 17th, 2013 at 4:18 PM
My husband of 31 years died suddenly one year ago yesterday. I too have found comfort in God's sovereignty and not asking WHY! Instead, I am asking HOW He wants me to use this to help others or HOW I need to grow from this experience. Still very painful. I did recognize myself in Jen's words "stoic acceptance", as sometimes I don't allow my true feelings to show. What choice do any of us have? We can cry our tears and give thanks and move forward, or we can cry our tears and relive the situation over and over until we are stuck on the pity potty! Jen hit the nail on the head with suggesting that those around us, allow us to cry and not try to fix us or over spiritual our plight!
Janice - September 17th, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Wow, as a person who speaks from experience and could be bitter, you show such trust in God's perfect plan for your life. Thanks for sharing a brief glimpse into your life and how God has strengthened your faith in Him.
vanessa - September 18th, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Agree with you 100%!!!
Ramona Mahammitte - October 14th, 2014 at 4:04 PM
To me.... the only reason you were able to endure such turbulence is because you were designed that way. As we walk this earth and continue to have "free will", we will continue to make wrong choices and bad decisions. , but GOD WHO LOVES HIS CREATION and this includes those he has predestined. .. which could be all of us. ... will continue to reap the cruel lessons that the ruler of this earth is allowed to throw our way. My question is, if God is all knowing and as your article states He (God) would never cause, endorse, or initiate, then how can loss, grief, sadness, be explained to the one who doesn't know god?
Leigh - September 17th, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Thank you so much for this thoughtful post, it couldn't have come at a more appropriate moment as I sit here waiting to hear word about a close friend who was admitted to hospice yesterday. I struggle tremendously with accepting and understanding grief and have always left feeling disappointed when I've asked questions of people who are more comfortable in their faith than me. Your bullet-pointed thoughts made sense to my Type A personality. They were thoughtful and concise and I felt the presence of community that I didn't realize I was missing. Suffering can be so lonely. I've struggled with faith and church directly as a result of grief and suffering and I appreciate the comfort your ideas made me feel. In thanks, L
Patty - September 17th, 2013 at 12:58 PM
A listening ear and shoulder to cry on...

Beth - September 17th, 2013 at 1:00 PM
thank you, thank you for such precious words today - as one who has been, is, and will be suffering from multiple chronic life-changing illnesses I needed affirmation of these truths today. I do often feel "propped up" from both medicines and well-intentioned people who affirm me for my stoic approach to pain and increasing disability. I have been ministered to most directly by those who weep with me and bring casseroles for my family - tangible reminders of our Christ Who both went and wept for those in pain and grief and still does today... My mantra has become Psalm 73:26 "my flesh and my heart may fail but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever"...
Sabra - September 17th, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I lost my son 10 years ago in a car accident at the tender age of 19. The one thing I have never done is ask God why? I do not blame God for the evil in this world. Thank you for your wisdom through God's grace. Through the love of God and the body of Christ. I have endured and have HOPE to be reunited with my son again someday.
fGregg Harris - July 11th, 2014 at 9:10 PM
Hi Sabra....My wife and me also lost our son, age 19 ten years ago from a tragic car accident. This was followed up a couple of years later with the death of our first born daughter. I have wept more times that I can remember, but also hever asked God Why....we fullyl believe in God's sovereignty over every moment of our lives, and we too look forward to that day when there shall be no accidents, no pain, suffering or tears that have to be wiped away. What a joy to know that our children are safe and home in the arms of the Lord Jesus.
Psalms 116:15 is incribed on my daughers headstone...."precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints."
May the Lord bless and comfort all of us until we are reunited with our children in glory.
Holly - September 17th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
Absolutely. Right on.

Idiots try and give answers. We are called to love. To listen. To cry. To feel.
Erica - September 17th, 2013 at 9:19 PM
Please be a little more gentle and generous when assigning intentions with those who struggle to help by giving answers. Truly, most are just trying to help and aren't sure what to say. That doesn't make them idiots...just misguided.

Jon - September 17th, 2013 at 11:41 PM
I don't understand your need to demean others by calling them idiots. You do realize that Jen is giving her answer on how to help those who morn, right?
Jinny Henson - September 17th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Thank you so much Jen for your thoughts on this topic which is always based on scripture.
My pastor- husband and I lost our daughter, Maggie Lee, four years ago. She was on her way to youth camp with our church. For some things in life there is simply no explanation. As much as we attempt to imagine what God could have been thinking allowing this to occur we will never know. And even if we did know that would not change our situation. Why can be a sink hole; the more you ask the deeper you can go.
I have found that you can either spend your limited days on Earth demanding an answer or you can take the comfort which God provides and comfort other people. Reaching out to serve others is a certain way to get you over your own sorrow.
Thousands have joined us in celebrating Maggie Lee's birthday on October 29th- Maggie Lee for Good Day. One day, one deed, one difference. We accomplish the goodness that we feel she would have in her life time.
Jenn LeBow - September 17th, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Jinny, I echo your feeling that "why can be a sinkhole." For me, in suffering, a better question (one I learned from Mary, mother of Jesus) is "How?" How can I hunker down right here next to God while I grieve? How do I continue to reflect God's love to others when I am broken? How can I make it through the next 15 minutes, sometimes. But for me, that helps ease (not erase) the sorrow.

I have been part of Maggie Lee for Good Day. Looking forward to doing it again and I thank you for reminding us all that there still is good even in horrible situations.
Summer Curwen - September 17th, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Jen, my husband and I were just remarking on how funerals in a local church here in the Nashville area are now being called "Celebration of home-going." Forgive me, but if there was ever a time to mourn, it's at a funeral. I of course think it's fine to celebrate that life at the funeral, but must we always put the positive spin on something that is obviously very difficult and very sad? I think it's become difficult for Christians to simply be sad, mourn, and not have an answer or solution for that grief. Thank you for putting into words what we've been seeing in our own community.
Janna - September 17th, 2013 at 1:05 PM
I lost my husband a little over a year ago and what a long dark night of the soul life has been. Thankful God has blessed me with people who not only allow but encourage me to grieve. Praying for your city and ministry.
Alysa - September 17th, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Thank you for this. I am also weary of comparative suffering. Trying to be strong because, "at least it's not as bad as ..." Take time to grieve. Don't feel the pressure to minimize your suffering in the name of being strong.
Jaime - September 17th, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Tomorrow would have been my baby's due date. Trying to deal with that loss and your words could not have come at a better time. Thank you.
Susan - September 17th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Praying God is huge for you now and every day. I'm hoping you know this, but you have a right and a need to grieve. And never, ever feel pressured to "get over it." Would love to give you a hug and a shoulder right now. Please know you are being covered in prayer.
georgia - September 19th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
jaime, i am sorry for your loss. i am right now 25 weeks pregnant with my little girl who has trisomy-18 and will not likely survive to birth, and if so, will not likely live long afterward. though i grieve with all who have shared their loss and suffering here, i mostly identify with and am touched by yours. may you find peace at such a time, and may you be given all you need to fully grieve. you will be specially in my prayers.
becky - September 19th, 2013 at 5:11 PM
I was just thinking the other day how my miscarriage was 15 years ago this month. It still makes me sad. I am praying for you. God's comfort is so sweet. I pray that he reveals himself to you in ways that you could never imagine. God bless your heart, sister.
Debbie - September 19th, 2013 at 9:31 PM
I carried my first daughter 7 months; went into labor and gave birth that morning. This was in 1972. Her lungs were not developed and NIC was not around. She was perfect weighing4 lbs. if it had been now she would have lived. It's been almost 41 years! The pain is still there and I remember it as it were yesterday. However, God has given me a peace over the years,because my late husband was an abusive alcoholic and would have never been supportive of a disabled child. Our Heavenly Father knows best and gives us these things to be closer to him!
Josephine - November 6th, 2014 at 8:30 PM
I carried a child for 3 months. It would have been my first child. We had a name for it too. We went on to have 3 more children. That was 27 years ago that I lost my first child - very sad at the time. Hopefully God will give you the grace to endure this grief. Reading your story made me recall how I felt at the time. I now have 3 beautiful children. The following child wouldn't have been born if I hadn't lost my first one. Give yourself time to grieve.
Linda M - September 17th, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Thank you once again, for hitting the nail on the head, to help us to know that there is no answer, only the sharing and loving. Be blessed, each and everyone.
Sheri - September 17th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Julie Williams Armstrong - September 17th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Two weeks ago, I posted our adoption story on another blog of yours (Your two year report, I believe). We were incredibly aware of his suffering -- and were doing our best to walk with him in it -- but over all, life _was_ manageable. Today, 14 eternity-laced days later, we are in the midst of a crisis that has our precious boy hospitalized and desiring to end his suffering himself. His hidden coping mechanism has snapped and he is lashing out to us in anger, which is really fear, but it still sure hurts. We are crying out to God to break the chains that are binding his heart. So, in the midst of this incredible suffering, these words from you are comforting and giving me permission to just grieve ... for him and for me. Thank you.
KG in ATX - September 17th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Not sure why, but your post about your son has really touched me. Praying for you all right now, and that God will sit on your son's heart like a rock and wrap him with love!
Amy - September 20th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Praying for you too. So heartbraking to hear of your son's pain. Praying that God gives you supernatural wisdom and grace to deal with this and He breaks through in such a real way to your son.
Ann - September 17th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
When Bill Cosby's son was killed he was asked why he was not mad at God. He said God did not murder his beloved son. God was there to see him and his family through it with the vessels brought by God in those who comforted and loved them through the most painful experience a parent can imagine. As you say - God asks that we love and care for one another. I will be sharing this wise and loving advice of yours with those who suffer and when I find myself back in that place holding on by my fingernails minute by minute.
Sarah - September 17th, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Laura - September 17th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
I find this topic to be so often explained scripturally wrong. Explanations are usually based upon Old Testament stories and the authors have forgotten that Jesus came to redeem us from the Old Testament law of working for our salvation. Scripture says, "Therefore put on God's complete armor, that you may be able to resist and stand your ground on the evil day [of danger], and, having done all [the crisis demands], to stand [firmly in your place]. "(Ephesians 6:13 AMP) and in Luke "Behold! I have given you authority and power to trample upon serpents and scorpions, and [physical and mental strength and ability] over all the power that the enemy [possesses]; and nothing shall in any way harm you." (Luke 10:19 AMP)
God gave his only son, not just for our salvation but also to bring the power of God and heaven to earth ( prayed in The Lord's Prayer "...on earth as it is in heaven...") we are in this world but we are not OF this world. We pray psalms 91 over our family every day. Take a look at what it says "HE WHO dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall remain stable and fixed under the shadow of the Almighty [Whose power no foe can withstand]. I will say of the Lord, He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust! For [then] He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence. [Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler. You shall not be afraid of the terror of the night, nor of the arrow (the evil plots and slanders of the wicked) that flies by day, Nor of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor of the destruction and sudden death that surprise and lay waste at noonday. A thousand may fall at your side, and ten thousand at your right hand, but it shall not come near you. Only a spectator shall you be [yourself inaccessible in the secret place of the Most High] as you witness the reward of the wicked. Because you have made the Lord your refuge, and the Most High your dwelling place, [Ps. 91:1, 14.] There shall no evil befall you, nor any plague or calamity come near your tent. For He will give His angels [especial] charge over you to accompany and defend and preserve you in all your ways [of obedience and service]. They shall bear you up on their hands, lest you dash your foot against a stone. [Luke 4:10, 11; Heb. 1:14.] You shall tread upon the lion and adder; the young lion and the serpent shall you trample underfoot. [Luke 10:19.] Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore will I deliver him; I will set him on high, because he knows and understands My name [has a personal knowledge of My mercy, love, and kindness%u2013trusts and relies on Me, knowing I will never forsake him, no, never]. He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him. With long life will I satisfy him and show him My salvation." (Psalm 91:1-16 AMP)

God gave US the power to bind all sickness and disease when he laid it on Jesus at the cross. Ask yourself this: why would he put every disease on Jesus if not to redeem is from it NOW? If God can make the land and the seas, he certainly can eradicate a disease from your body that he created. God didn't make us to doom us to the carnal pain and suffering of the world. We are Christ like!

"Surely He has borne our griefs (sicknesses, weaknesses, and distresses) and carried our sorrows and pains [of punishment], yet we [ignorantly] considered Him stricken, smitten, and afflicted by God [as if with leprosy]. [Matt. 8:17.] But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities; the chastisement [needful to obtain] peace and well-being for us was upon Him, and with the stripes [that wounded] Him we are healed and made whole." (Isaiah 53:4, 5 AMP)

Healed and made WHOLE by His stripes. Faith is NOW. "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen." You stand in faith until what your having faith for manifests!

Bad things happen. But they don't have to happen to you or your family. When you live in the body of Christ (think about that) you are not living of the world, but of Christ! Healed, whole, blessed, prosperous in every aspect, protected, guided... Christ like.

Every GOOD and PERFECT thing comes from God. The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy.

"I call heaven and earth to witness this day against you that I have set before you life and death, the blessings and the curses; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live" (Deuteronomy 30:19 AMP)

You can't apply what you don't know!!


Joan - September 17th, 2013 at 1:31 PM
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, Laura. That those who lose a baby to miscarriage, or a child to a senseless gunman, or a family member to a hit and run driver, or to cancer, or heart attack, or lose homes and communities in fires and floods aren't really in the body of Christ?
Laura - September 17th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
I'm trying to not be too touchy here, but I find your comment offensive. Perhaps this is not what you mean, but the implication is that someone who suffers from disease or other "bad things" suffers because they do not have enough faith.

Four years ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer 2 weeks after my youngest daughter's first birthday. I DID NOT get cancer because my faith wasn't strong enough. I believe that God used the chemotherapy and surgery to save my life. However, there was plenty of suffering in the process.

My father has been living with multiple sclerosis for 30 years. He has not been healed and has slowly declined to the point that he is now in a wheelchair. He has the strongest faith of anyone I know. I believe that his name should be listed in Hebrews 11 with the other "heroes of faith". My father has suffered in many ways. However, if you ask him, he believes that he is right where he is supposed to be. His words are "If God wants me to be in this wheelchair, then that is where I am going to be."

The reason that Jesus suffered so greatly was not so that we would not suffer. It was so that when we do we would know that he understands and is close to us. His suffering provides us strength and comfort here on earth. Being completely healed and made whole is not something that will happen until we get to heaven.

I'm sorry I don't have time to insert scriptural references or explain my thoughts more clearly. Just please know that I find your comment anything but loving and understanding.
Aisha - September 17th, 2013 at 2:59 PM
I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say, Laura. But I do want to add something. I have been very ill for a few years now. I have heard people say " if it is God's will, you will be healed" and to be quite honest with you, this statement put a huge wedge between me and The Lord. When Jesus was on this earth He healed sooo many suffering individuals. He also taught us that when we see Him, we see the Father (John 5:30). So, if Jesus is the revealed will of God from heaven, then surely God's will for us is NOT to be sick and His will for your father is NOT to be in a wheelchair. God's will for your dad is good health, joy, long life. There is so much power in our words and saying those words will not bring healing!

One more thing. Has your dad been tested for Lyme disease and Co-infections? Lyme and co's mimic MS. I couldn't walk last year. I was so incredibly sick .. I had early symptoms of ms/ALs ... but it was Chronic Lyme and Co-infections. I am walking now, my balance is not the best, but I am walking .. praise be to God. I will be praying for your father!!

Peace & love,
Carolyn - September 17th, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Laura, why are you offended at a simple and logical question in response to your comment which included the statement, "Bad things happen. But they don't have to happen to you or your family." Your message is one I've heard many times from a sister-in-law, but it boils down to an indictment to anyone who doesn't find healing because of 'not enough faith'. And who can judge that? Jen tells us that when there is suffering, we are here to give comfort and love. Not judge another's lack of faith. To state as simply as possible why there is suffering here, I believe it's perhaps that THIS IS NOT YET HEAVEN. That is our hope, but in the meantime, GOD IS HERE WITH US.
Nicole - September 17th, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Are these 2 different Laura's? I've read those 2 comments several times and they seem to be making different points. I can't tell...
Egle - October 12th, 2014 at 3:11 PM
sorry ,but i do not believe in god any more ,too much is going on in the world and in my life God the great brought me sadness fora long time ,so where was this great god when i neede him??? HE DID NOT HELP
Jenny - September 17th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
I'm not sure I agree, Laura. I'm not a big online debater - but one of the main issues Jen is talking about is our acceptance of others and their suffering - not placing blame or judgment on them - but getting right in there in the suffering with them. Doesn't God allow rain to fall on the just and the unjust? (Matt 5:45) Didn't Paul have a lifelong issue - a thorn in the flesh - that God used in his life? He wasn't healed , nor relieved of it. Yes, Christ died for all the sin of the world - yet we are still living here, where things are broken. The book of James even mentions how to respond --'when troubles come your way'... do this....

Debbie - September 17th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
I also don't understand your statement. I believe those scriptures but from what I take from what you're saying is if anything bad happens to anyone you really don't know Christ. I truly hope that is not the way you meant it to sound.
sarah k - September 17th, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Laura, I must say that these types of comments are extremely hurtful to those who have suffered horrible losses as a direct result of God not delivering them or their loved ones from pain and death in this life. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and to that end am assuming that you probably have not experienced such suffering yourself or seen it happen to people of strong faith. If you had, I cannot imagine that you would write such words.

In the past two years I have lost my brother (who had been prayed for with great faith by hundreds of people for 25 years), suffered two miscarriages (despite much prayer), and delivered a dead baby boy (although there were probably at least a thousand people praying desperately for him to be healed). I have known the Bible inside and out since I was a child, and I prayed every Scriptural promise there is. God did not choose to intervene.

I would like to caution you, as kindly as I can, to be careful what you say. Do not further wound the already broken. You have hurt strangers with your words today, but someday you may hurt someone you love if you speak such things to them--you could miss the opportunity to show love and solidarity and instead deepen their pain and push them farther from God.
Judy - September 17th, 2013 at 2:52 PM
This is health and wealth nonsense that destroys the faith of the suffering. If this were accurate then no believer would get sick and die. I don't know any believers much more than 100 years old. There's not more than a handful of people on the planet born before 1900.

This is false people, and don't let it destroy your faith.
Jenny - September 17th, 2013 at 4:02 PM
I think maybe I am misunderstanding. Your comment makes it seem as if pain and suffering only befall those who are deserving. That those who are truly living "in Christ" can avoid all of this messiness. I think this logic is reckless and hurtful. It implies that suffering is always punitive. That there is always a "why". Everyone suffers for all of the reasons that Jen so eloquently listed. Everyone. I have sometimes felt the closest to God while in pain, because he was there with me IN my suffering. I would be very hurt to be in a relationship with a God that could have prevented my suffering if only for the intensity of my prayer, the goodness of my deeds, the depth of my relationship with Christ.
Ella - September 17th, 2013 at 8:37 PM
Going by Laura's point of view, I guess it's clear the disciples who were killed for their faith, the martyrs who died for theirs, all those listed in the Hebrews 11 "Hall of Faith" who suffered horrible tragedies, must not have believed and applied these scriptures. I guess Christ's promise in Matthew that all those who will live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution is not a promise Laura chooses to claim.

Our hope is not in this world. Christ promises to overcome the world and bring a new world. But in this world there will be suffering. Christ clearly states in John 16 that in this world we will suffer tribulation. Peace is only through Him.

To try to say that bad things happen because people do not have enough faith is not only offensive, but it's completely contrary to scripture. Context. Context is rather crucial. Have you read John 9, Laura? Remember where Jesus heals the man who was born blind? The disciples demanded to know who had sinned--the man or his parents. Like humans. They had to have an answer. What was the response? "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him." John 9:3

While, I could add many more passages that contradict this bizarre thought that somehow people's lack of faith causes all their ills, I'll conclude with these words from Job (though Laura would probably call him a man of very little faith, based on all the horrible events that happened to his family): "He [Job] replied, 'You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble?' In all this, Job did not sin in what he said."
Beth Meredith - September 19th, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Thank you to all for being concerned and sharing. It is thru faith that we continue on, share our experiences, strength, and hope in Him! xo

cindy soltis - December 11th, 2015 at 8:25 PM
Living in Christ doesn't mean you are immune from pain and suffering of this world! People that love and live for God get sick and suffer pain also.
Jody - September 17th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Thank you. I lost my mom last November....hurts so bad.
tonia - September 18th, 2013 at 10:41 AM
praying for you. I lost my mom Nov. 15th, 2008 and I lost my dad June, 2013. I am 43 and still need them both so much. I am with you sister...you are not alone.
June - September 17th, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Thank you, Jen! God's timing is always perfect, even with blog posts shared on FB!
Claire - September 17th, 2013 at 1:26 PM
OH my, you have heard my heart, I am pouring tears and thanking God for your words
Eva Carr - September 17th, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Hard to believe that I was just putting the finishing touches on my own blog post for today which contained this exact message of losing the platitudes and choosing grace instead. So thankful to read your words of encouragement to do the same!
Linda - September 25th, 2013 at 8:12 AM
Hi Eva - what is your blog? I'd love to read your take on this as well.

Jenny - September 17th, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Thanks for sharing God's truths for our hearts to hold on to!
Laura Anglea - September 17th, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Danae - September 17th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
My husband was diagnosed with two cancers in February this year...just two months after bringing home our 5th adopted child. He had surgery and we thought all was good but on August 4th another tumor was found and this time it was on his spine. My heart hurts more than I can put into words. I found comfort in your words today, thank you.
Lesley - September 17th, 2013 at 6:33 PM
I don't know you, Danae, but my heart hurts for you. Praying for you right now.
Debbie layne Drummond - September 18th, 2013 at 7:04 AM
I don't know you either Danae, my heart hurts for you too, like Lesley( I don't know either) I will pray for you and family . My husband had cancer. God bless always
Susan - September 19th, 2013 at 2:30 PM
B17 is well documented to help with cancer. Apricot kernels, laetrile but there are also many other sources of B17. Also cancer can be demonic harassment and can be helped with deliverance. Try everything and don't ONLY listen to doctors as cancer is a multi-billion pound industry. There are many wonderful doctors, nurses, surgeons and research scientists, but In China they pay their doctors when they are well, not when they are ill, so the incentive is the right way around.
Barbara - September 24th, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Also praying for you. God is the only one we can truly rely on. My husband had cancer and surgery gave him 7 yrs. of remission. When it came back, he chose treatments and the radiation awaken another illness in his lungs which is eventually what God used to take him home. I pray you won't face that for a long time but God will give you strength to face each day, but even tho as you already know, some days are harder than other. God bless
tara pollard pakosta - October 2nd, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Danae, I am so so sorry. My husband was diagnosed with a GBM brain tumor last summer and is still fighting for his life. It's been a hard journey, but the people surrounding us have been amazing. I wish you all the very best and my love goes out to you.
Amy - September 17th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Jen, this subject hits so close to home. I've had many instances where I have been given the opportunity to meditate on it. I have come to some conclusions and absolute truths in my life that help me put my my around many losses I've endured that seem senseless at times. God love us like a father. We mourns with us, is sad with us and hurts for us just like our worldly parents. He is love. Period. End of story. Why would this all powerful God need to use evil, hate or pain to teach us? Isn't there enough of that created by all the "causes" you describe. My God doesn't need to be the God of the Old Testament. We are no longer under the law. I also believe God is there to carry us through with loved ones, scripture and more. He bring the good out of things if we open our eyes to it. I also believe many things are the result of generations before us and that is why we don't readily see the cause of the consequence. Maybe God gave us this perfect world and we crapped on it. We had a perfect haven in the Garden of Eden. Maybe our actions have tricked down to cause pollutants and disease and suffering. Maybe we were not good stewards and majority of our pain and suffering has a man made cause that we can't see. I do not believe it is punishment but maybe a natural consequence. I know my God wants us to be happy and healthy and spread his love through love. I know the more tragedy I endure, the more compassion I have and the more I am driven to help others on this journey. Show them the only way to grieve is to go to extremes so you can come back to center. Maybe something that came out of free will indadvertedly became something beautiful that makes God full of joy to see his children loving one another. Thank you for being love and a voice to all of God's children!
Cindy - September 20th, 2013 at 9:33 AM
I lost my husband on June 22 of this year after a 18 hour surgery for thyroid cancer, 21 days in ICU, two more weeks in the hospital and two weeks at home. A blood clot took him. He was "on the mend" and this was totally not on our radar. I have told people this exact thing. We have to live with the consequences of this earth, be it genetic, environmental, etc. and the choices we make. Stuff happens, but God is there to help you through it. He is crying with me, but welcoming Dale into his presence. I believe God gives gifts and talents, but we have the choice to use them or not. But, if we are open to his love, we will find comfort and see his timing through our troubles. If you are not opened to his love, you will fall apart. I have good days and bad, but see God working through me and others to make since of Dale's loss.
Kim - September 30th, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Cindy, I'm sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how painful that would be. I just wanted to join you and Amy. I've come to the same conclusions through a life of hardship. I know that God is good, and it makes me want be more like Him so that I'm contributing less to heartache and more to those good things that come from Him. Sending hugs your way for what you've been through. God bless.
Beth - October 3rd, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Thank you, Cindy. Your wise words have helped my grieving heart immensely tonight. God bless you.
Miki - September 17th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
This is awesome and very timely. A friend of mine sent it to me. I was asking this same question this morning after being in the hospital with my mom who is suffering from cancer and is in constant pain. She has always had tremendous faith in God her whole life... Thank you again for this timely message.
Sabrina - September 17th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Love this. That is all.
Emily Blackwood Sibley - September 17th, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Hi Jen,
We attended OBU together; I now live in south Austin with my family. Your blog had me in tears...7 years ago our daughter was born still with no explanation for her death. This was a very difficult time for our family. And 2 yrs ago we lost our home in the wildfires. We've also endured the loss of other family members and relationships....all of this in the course of 7 yrs. God has provided and brought healing. Does my heart still hurt and ache for my baby in my arms? Yes. Does that pain every truly go away? I don't know. I do know God has brought women into my life who have also suffered the loss of a child. Ive been able to 'be there', to hold them thru the days, months of tears. Because of my loss(daughter, relationships, death, wildfires) I have been able to live out 2 Cor. 1:4 "...that we can comfort those in trouble with the same comfort we ourselves have received from God."
Thank you for sharing and being a blessing to so many! It is neat to see what God has done in your life since OBU!! :)
Stacy - September 17th, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Still grieving an adoption referral we lost almost a year ago. I have tried so hard some days to be "okay" as we wait on God through the rest of the process and for Him to work it for good. Thank you for giving those with broken hearts the freedom to not be "okay." SO touched by your compassionate post today.
Elora - October 1st, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Stacy, my husband and I have lost two adoption referrals in the past year. I know this pain. I'm so sorry.
Jennifer Hoyle - September 17th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Love this Jen, thanks for sharing!
Krystal - September 17th, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Thank you for this! Exactly what I needed to hear today!
Shannan - September 17th, 2013 at 2:01 PM
This is a beautiful explanation. Thank you for writing and sharing it!
Kris - September 17th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
YES! A thousand times, YES! How I'd love to hear you preach this...or even just READ this aloud. Powerful. Thank you for "going there". Again.
Tonya - September 17th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Laura , I'm not sure you understanding her post .. Because if u had .... You would never think that . So sweet inoccent children that are sick ... They don't have enough Faith ?? That is sad to think that ... Every child of this world has faith.. The devil destroys .... Not our Lord , he is here to walk us through the hard times of this sinful world ... I pray you never have to have a loved one sick . Because with your Faith as you say is so strong , it should never be ? Sickness is of this world and it will always be .. God is here to help us , untill he calls us all home ...

Danelle - September 17th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Jen, I'm a relatively new follower here (probably won't surprise you to learn since the infamous end of the school year post), but I've never left a comment until today. I live in Colorado. And that is probably all you need to know about why I love this post so much. Thank you. I'm sharing with everyone I can here at home in the hopes that we'll truly be able to comfort one another.
Diane Waltman - March 10th, 2014 at 7:49 PM

When I think about where I was and how God rescued me and brought me through all of my pain and misery, I want to help as many people as I possibly can to have hope and believe what God can do for them. If you%u2019ll trust God to write a beautiful story through your life, you%u2019ll find purpose in your pain as God takes your mess and turns it into His message. My motive in telling my story is not for you to go out and buy my book or feel sorry for myself. I%u2019m sharing my story because many, many people have been through similar struggles. God wants to share my story so you may be restored by God%u2019s mercy and grace. I%u2019m living proof. To learn more about The Little Girl Inside, go to my Facebook and click on the link...I have a dream to be a voice for all these innocent children. Remember, for every book I sell that's one more day closer in saving an innocent victim. God Bless...
Chris - September 17th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I will preach this topic this week and have faced many families who have lost loved ones. I've seen first had suffering as a mother holds her still-born son just three days before his due date in the hospital. I've seen first hand loved ones breathe their last. You have presented a great challenge for all of us here. The reality is, God is sovereign. It is not necessarily what we want to hear, but if we take Jeremiah 29:11 to heart, then we must believe He is sovereign. Some how, what I've seen through God's redeeming plan, is that He receives glory some where, some how. I can't say for sure when that redemption will occur, but I've witnessed it before. Sometimes its days, weeks, or years.

As I've now preached the first two weeks of this series, and will continue on, this week will be one of the most difficult to work through for the exact reasons you state.

I would love hear your thoughts on John 9:1-5, where Jesus heals a man born blind from birth. Definitely physical suffering in his day as it would be considered today as well. Jesus is questioned as to the "why"? He response is crazy! "It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him." Do we suffer at different times, or on different levels, for God's glory? So that His work is displayed in us for Him to be made known & for His glory? What do you think?
Margaret - September 17th, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Yes, yes, yes Chris. The answer is a resounding yes Chris.
Meg - September 21st, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Thank you-I kept reading the comments wondering if any one would address this.

Whether we like what God does or not in our lives-He is sovereign. That may not be comforting, but it is the Truth.

I have watched my young daughter suffer from cancer. It's not always easy to accept that this is His plan for her life. But I believe my bible which means I believe He knows better than me.

And what about Paul's thorn in his side? 'My grace is sufficient for thee' or James 1:2-3?

Anyway-thank you for pointing out that God is sovereign! I personally find that comforting when I hold my daughter.
gail - October 5th, 2013 at 10:50 AM
After losing our son in May at age 38 we felt the love and comfort of Jesus through the body of Christ, it has been wonderful and has been a huge part of our healing. But knowing that God is sovereign and has a bigger plan is our greatest comfort and hope. It is complicated and as has been said we can not understand it all. We are working through just trusting God in his infinite wisdom, love and grace. To God be the glory! May we trust him...as we take one day at a time!
clara - February 19th, 2014 at 7:55 AM
I think that in the time that Jesus was on earth it came about that it was people who had those defects so they can see how he could take the suffering tru him to get them to follow I don't think that he dont cause it, I think it was there n he just fix it for his glory we r imperfect from the beginning bcuase of Adam n eve but Jesus came to correct that tru us believing in him u have faith n he's there for u now I have experience that even with my faith I go tru suffering but then realized that I needed to grow in that area n he allows it so u know that he's the only way for u to go true life read genesis go back to the beginning n u will understand. also he wants u to know that without him u can't do anything u breath because of him when he decide u got to go its up to him we our life its borrowed from him he gave it to us so he can take it if he wants to take a leg from u he can cause he gave it to us, n the things that this world we going tru like all the children n people dying its not him causing it n the earthquakes n everything else its revelation this world its going to come to an end its just things been fulfill in revelation read it we have no control of it. U have to think like this he gave us life, he gave us this earth to live in it, he gave us grace n a chance to change our life true forgiveness n faith, we don't own what we have its the god almighty in heaven that everything belongs to n this world has to pass so a new world begin so we r going to see more than just a cripple n a blind n a sick n a dying revelation its not fulfill jet its still things to b do n to come its like when u get hire in a job well the company its not yours so u have to go true the boss to do anything in there if u r a good employee n ur job be done right its same with god u don't own ur life u don't own this earth we borrow this life the breath n this earth everything goes back to him n it will go back to him were just a mere speck in his eyes so lets stop bn proud n thinking that we better then others n committing sin against him offending him by cursing him when something don't go our way its his way n no one else no one else. We have the free of will to do what we want but he jas the last word n will. Without him we r nothing
Janelle - September 17th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
When my friend lost her dad in the bombing in Oklahoma City, words failed me. All I could do was sit and cry and pray with her. Later she told me how grateful she was that I didn't approach her with the typical platitudes. I wish I could say that I was so wise that I knew that was what she needed, but literally I had NO words. I did however learn from that experience about what a grieving person needs. This was beautiful.
Epicurus - September 17th, 2013 at 2:42 PM
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Larry - September 17th, 2013 at 10:06 PM
Seems you need to read the word more, my friend. He is able to prevent evil if you are in covenant relationship with Him. If not in covenant relationship, you are not afforded his protection.
Sue - September 18th, 2013 at 3:49 AM
I suggest you read the answer of Epicurus more carefully. Note the question mark!
Mark - April 7th, 2014 at 9:33 AM
Your covenant relationship idea, in its power over evil, is in a word, BS.
barbara fabian - April 7th, 2014 at 11:02 AM
How can a 4 month old with a sin filled mother have a covenant relationship with GOD?? She needed to be rescued from her life of pain not raped until she bled to death!! No I will never get it!!!

sarah k - September 17th, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Jen, thank you so much for these words. I have been profoundly hurt by the attempts of Christians to provide Biblical "answers" in the midst of my suffering. When I don't respond well to those "anwers" ("God is sovereign; just trust him," etc), I am looked at askance and thought to be losing my faith. It's maddening and crushing to be judged and criticized in addition to my grief.

My baby boy should be just over two months old now. Instead he is lying in a cemetery under a gravestone. And nothing will ever make that okay. And it bothers me when people say that they never doubted God or asked him why. If they didn't, that's fine--but that doesn't mean it's wrong to do so. I think it is a terribly dangerous thing to imply or directly teach people that they can't bring their pain and questions and doubts to God. If he is as big as we say he is, he can handle it--the psalmist and prophets certainly thought so.

Thank you for reaching into the darkness as so few people do. Those who do are the true friends.
Melissa - September 29th, 2013 at 8:52 PM
Sarah K., I too lost a son. He would be a year and a half now. I would love to grieve with you, because I get it. After I lost him, a "friend" told me that "Gods timing is perfect." I was in the darkest place. Please feel free to email me. I'd love a friend who understands.
Mark Allen - April 30th, 2014 at 8:50 PM
There is a consistent message in the Bible that we are here on Earth to experience suffering, like Christ, _so that we may share in His glory_. Furthermore, that the suffering we experience is incomparable to the glory we will receive.

Read Romans 8:16-18
16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God%u2019s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs%u2014heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.

Stated differently, we attain a share in the indescribable glory of Christ _through our suffering here on earth_. This is why God allows us to experience suffering - it is for our own good, and that good will be far, far greater than the suffering we are experiencing.

Our problem is that we just see the suffering part and don't see the 'incomparable' glory that results from it... a little like a child that is taken by its parents to be given a vaccination injection to prevent polio - it hurts and they can't understand why they are having the pain of a needle stuck in their arm but their parents are doing it in love for their ultimate benefit.

When viewed in the light of the Romans 8 scripture, suffering becomes understandable (but not easier to bear) and the focus changes to trust in God, rather than questioning his existence or love.

KM - June 6th, 2014 at 4:31 PM
Sarah and Melissa. I am so sorry for your losses. I too have lost children in various stages of pregnancy (4 times), and was insulted when someone said "All things work for the good" or "maybe there was something wrong with your baby and you have been spared" or "It just wasn't meant to be". ARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!! Shut up!!! I know people mean well, but SHUT UP!!! What we need is a shoulder to cry on. Someone to bring us a big tub of ice cream and demolish it together. Someone to say they are so sorry and hug us. Someone to offer to cook or clean or take the other kids for a while (if you have others) so you can grieve.

Mark, i know you meant well, but all i got from your comment was that we should be grateful for losing our children because it was done in love for our benefit. That our children were pawns in a cosmic lesson for us to learn that God loves us and wants greater things for us. Well what if having children, was what we earnestly desired? Are you saying that God allowed us to get pregnant and grow a baby inside us, knowing the elation it would bring us, and then strip it from us like it was a lifeless soul? How cruel is that? God is not cruel. He longs to give us the desires of our hearts, and children are one of His greatest joys. Sadly, things happen to children and adults that no one can explain away and we just need time to grieve with the support of those around us. Not handed a bunch of irrelevant verses that somewhat sound like something that might explain what happened.

I believe that God's reference in sharing in suffering is directed toward the mission field and suffering the perils of following Christ. When we suffer persecution, we understand what He went through and it makes it a little easier to endure knowing we are following His footsteps and will be rewarded in Heaven. But to apply that to the daily sufferings of losing loved ones is cruel.

Like i said, i know you are probably a very loving man and meant only the best intentions in what you wrote, and i think that's great. But it shows just how far off most Christians are in their abilities to assist a grieving person.
Mark Allen - October 1st, 2014 at 1:05 PM
My reply will not help you with your grieving... as I said, "suffering becomes understandable (but not easier to bear)". My reply was focused on what happens during and after suffering - the time when you start to question the very existence of a God that would allow such terrible things to happen. A God that would ignore desperate prayers from your soul to save something that is perfect and good and is as precious as your very life to you. Why doesn't He answer prayer? Why does He let such a terrible thing happen? What kind of God does this?

If, like me, you find answers like "it's God's will" or "we shouldn't question God" or "God is sovereign" as much use as an answer "the sky is blue because it isn't pink", you get to asking a question that is so fundamental that it has caused many people to abandon belief in God altogether. The question is "If God is all good, and all powerful, why does He allow suffering?". There are four possible answers to that question:
1) God is not all good
2) God is not all powerful
3) God does not exist
4) There is a good reason for suffering

My answer (number 4) will not help you with your suffering. In my experience, nothing but time numbs that. It will help you with the follow on question to suffering and that is "Why does God allow suffering?", alternatively, "Does God exist?".

I believe there is ample evidence that He does exist (not least of which is Jesus' death and resurrection). As to why there is suffering, to repeat the last sentence in my previous reply, "When viewed in the light of the Romans 8 scripture, suffering becomes understandable (but not easier to bear) and the focus changes to trust in God, rather than questioning his existence or love."

Moses - June 23rd, 2014 at 2:48 PM
Not a good response to real suffering when it is happening. In the classroom that is a neat argument but it does not work well when you are in the midst of it. Bible answers are good but compassion, the personality of Christ and the ministry of the Holy spirit, are what is needed when the time comes. Remember your sermon when it is you who are in the midst of suffering. Tight answers do not work as well as the love and fellowship of others who are willing to not condemn or correct but show real concern. And they will know we are Christians by our love . . .
Becky - September 17th, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Can you please give us your responses to ALL of the other questions/discussions?
Julia - September 17th, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Jen, I know you probably will not have time to read this, but thank you. Tis goes plectrum with what I challenged my college age Sunday school class with. I will use it as a reference next week.

Your words are beautiful. They inspire critical, consuming thought. Thank you for making us think harder, contextualize, and accept more.
Preston - September 17th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Preaching this topic this weekend in Georgetown. Going to be sharing this to my church as primer. Like you said, "No way we can preach this in 25 minutes." Always so blessed by your words.
Kim broad - October 17th, 2013 at 8:12 PM
Where do you preach at ?
Amy - September 17th, 2013 at 3:49 PM
I lost my dad this week...thank you so much for your precious words...
Debbie - September 17th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
awesome. The Sovereignty of God itself explains that He loves us and He restores us. Love that you wrote this heartfelt and so heart-focused post.
Julee - September 17th, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Jen, Thanks for dealing with this, esp love the last paragraph. Matt Chandler shared his take on what God does also in the midst of suffering: 'So for whatever reason, God said, "This isn%u2019t punishment. I%u2019m going to make much of Myself, and I%u2019m going to draw you very close to Me. And I%u2019m going to expose some things about your heart you didn%u2019t know where there, and I%u2019m going to make you so dependent on Me, more dependent than you ever dreamed or imagined. And I%u2019m going to show you some idolatry in your life that is keeping you from more of Me." And it wasn%u2019t punitive; it was a deep and divine act of love that let me have that seizure on Thanksgiving. I believe that, and I want you to believe that because your time to bleed will come.' I absolutely love this!

Lisa - September 17th, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Tess - September 17th, 2013 at 4:22 PM
Lovely truly. And so true. "He has given us to one another as agents of love and grace and safety".

Thank you for these words
Donna - September 17th, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Amen. Amen. Amen. Our family lost my brother in law at the age of 47 to cancer two years ago. It was absolutely horrific. I learned more about suffering and grief during that time than any of my 45 years on this earth. Every point you make here is 100% true, Jen. The ones who held my hand during grief, who gave me comfort, casseroles and their own tears were my blessings and my sustainers. We did not have to 'be strong" because we had people who were being strong FOR us. Amazing stuff. Life changing. LOVE this blog. Thank you.
Rachel Toalson - September 17th, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Two years ago my husband and I lost a baby girl on a Friday afternoon and were expected to lead worship at our church that Sunday because "it was just a miscarriage." Had we not been so tethered to the kingdom church (not that one particular church, which we left soon after) and to the God who directs our paths into this way of community, I wonder if we would have left the institutional church altogether. My husband braved his way through those worship songs. I stayed home in bed, unable to face all those who did not believe in the real of this pain, unable to rage at or talk to or most of all sing to my God who gives and takes away.

I so appreciate your post. We, the Church, have got to be better about allowing this grieving in its entirety, as uncomfortable and messy and heartrending as it is. And maybe we even need to stop saying so much and just walk with the grieving through all that ugly because these words we say ("God knows best." "You should be happy you have three other healthy children. You know they say one in four..." "God never gives us more than we can handle), they don't heal that gaping wound like the whisper words of Jesus do. And the people who pointed me toward that Voice within, without saying a word themselves, were the ones who held healing balm in their hands.

Thank you for using your voice (and the stage at ANC) to call the church into a better way.
Michelle - September 17th, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Wow what timing! my teenage nephew was in a car accident Friday night that took the lives of two other teens. My nephew survived. It is been pure hell this weekend. I can't imagine what the families are going through. But we are all grieving and know there is a long road ahead for all involved in different ways. I will share this with my family. Thank you
J.C. - September 17th, 2013 at 5:18 PM
My dearest friend had to bury her infant daughter. While everyone busied themselves trying to encourage her that life goes on, that she could have more children, that God had a plan, that it wasn't meant to be...she and I spent hours on the phone in silence. Literally hours. Partly because I did not know what to say, and partly because she didn't need me to say anything at all. We are 3000 miles apart, but it didn't phase us. She in a ball, in her closet, weeping and moaning and calling out to God. Me on the line silently crying with her and whispering prayers towards heaven for her broken heart. Our time on the phone included sweet connection, words of love, and even laughter through the tears. Several years later, she has two beautiful and healthy children. But to this day, she reminds me that those phone calls in the dark...the silence...the weeping...and letting her grieve openly without apology were the most healing part of her grieving.
RB - September 18th, 2013 at 9:07 PM
This is seriously beautiful. I just had a friend's child that died in a freak accident and I just didn't know what to say, so i didn't say much and I felt so inadequate. All I could do was cry and pray for her and cry out to God on her behalf. Thank you for sharing J.C. There is so much truth to "weeping with those who weep" and just allowing grief to happen.
Bemby - September 29th, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Bless you for being there for your friend. Not many can do that when they have not walked that same path. I had a friend who listened to me cry on the phone at 3:30 am when I was grieving losing my 2 1/2 year old to pneumonia, she didn't have to say a thing just be there for me. I had no idea I would need her and others just 4 1/2 years later when my 3 1/2 year old passed away from a brain tumor. The Lord provided several friends that had the courage (and it takes tremendous courage to stick with the grieving) to walk this very difficult path with me. Thank you for being that kind of friend, she will never forget it.......it's been 26 and 22 years since they went home to the Lord I will be forever grateful to them.
Patti VDG - September 17th, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Jen Hatmaker, you are one in a million. You have blessed my life in so many ways and so many times. May God bless you and your family as you continue to follow Him.
Bekah - September 17th, 2013 at 5:26 PM
So you do not believe God causes us pain to grow us?
MEC - September 17th, 2013 at 5:32 PM
"In our darkest moment, when we are crushed, Jesus is as close as our own breath."

...But what if you can't feel him there? No matter how much you wish you could, you just can't feel him there? What am I doing wrong? Lack of faith?
sarah k - September 17th, 2013 at 6:06 PM
MEC: I don't feel him there either. I don't think we are doing anything wrong. It is just some people's experience--which stinks, to put it mildly.

I do think that we are not alone in this experience of the darkness feeling like the complete absence of God, though. I see that in the psalms, and in the OT prophets, and I think you can read it between the lines of New Testament passages like Hebrews 11. I often find myself now looking for what is NOT said in Bible passages--for the silences that I assumed meant everything was great and fine and easy. But now I think they didn't mean that.

I have no answers for this but wanted to say that I feel it too. I hope someday we will both feel his presence again. I am still waiting for it--waiting for him to show up again in a way I can see.

MEC - September 17th, 2013 at 9:52 PM
Sarah, thank you. This definitely gave me food for thought. I'll be praying for both of us, hoping against hope to feel that comfort again. Your words are inspirational.
Andi - September 17th, 2013 at 9:17 PM
I think sometimes I rely too much on feelings to guide me. The Truth is this: He is here because scripture says He is. The Evil One would love nothing more than for us to think we're alone and abandoned when we're not. He is there whether we feel it or not. Just like as when you were a child, our parents LOVED us, whether we think they do or not. God is there. He is in you, beside you, in front of you...has been since we accepted Him as our Savior. NOTHING can separate that, not even OUR lack of faith!!!
MEC - September 19th, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Andi, good analogy to the love of a parent/child. I guess I just wish I could feel him right beside me sometimes, with things so tough right now. Maybe it's my selfishness, maybe it's a lack of faith, but I could really use that 'divine hug'.
Thanks so much for your encouraging words.
Shannon Heath - October 9th, 2013 at 3:04 PM
I want you to know have been there..where I couldn't feel His presence. But He was and is there. It may take days or weeks or months but keep calling out His name. Seek the Lord and He will be found. There are many reasons we can't feel or hear Him at times.. Like Jen said every situation with God is a little different. Why? because your experiences differ from mine. Where you are in your walk and His plan for your life is different from mine. But keep seeking, keep trusting, and keep going. It is in doing this that you will have spiritual breakthroughs like no other. I too lost a baby, I too lost my fortune, I too have been redeemed.. and Bless beyond anything I could have imagined. My prayer was and still is that God would get all the Glory that He could because it was too Hard to do otherwise and that as I trusted him He would just give me a glimpse of His glory that I could understand. We are now in another season of trial.. and I will trust Him even when I don't understand because of all He has done before. Had I not gone through all of that I would not be prepared for where I am. Faith is like a muscle very few people just receive it. Most people have to wrestle to get there.. Just keep crying out and wrestling until you know, ask Him what it is He needs from you and tell Him what it is you need from Him . I will pray for you.
Sigby - September 17th, 2013 at 6:01 PM
I lost a baby earlier this year at a point most people apparently do not consider that devastating. I am doing better every day with God's help restoring me. I have felt a need to 'be strong' for those around me that need to hear I am doing better. My aunt told me He is big enough to hold your sorrow and your anger. Lean into His arms and cry and rage because He will be with you, support you, and He understands. I needed this reminder even though it made me cry again. Grief is not a comfortable subject but it is such a part of being human that knowing how to handle grief with grace and compassion is so important. Thank you for the healing words today. I pray that when I need to comfort someone in their grief I am as up for the task as my supporters were when it was my turn to be comforted.
Lisa - September 24th, 2013 at 3:48 PM
Sigbe, I cried as I read what your aunt told you. She must be an angel blessed by God. I too have had my heart broken. No one knows what to say so they say all the wrong things. Going thru grief isn't something that's choosen. It's a process that isn't the same for everyone. When you love someone and they die that doesn't mean that you stop loving them. Thank you for your words and may your heart be on the mend by the grace of God!
Leslie Gustafson - September 17th, 2013 at 6:15 PM
Thank you from the bottom of this counselor's heart, and Amen.
Shirley - September 17th, 2013 at 6:17 PM
I just saw your blog from a friend's FaceBook post regarding HGTV today and just read your blog on grief. Thank you. My mom died 6 weeks ago; we were extremely close and I am the only daughter. Most Christains are weird like you said, say strange things. "She's in a better place, she's with your dad now, her suffering is over etc etc."
My Mom just died-do you understand that?! I am now an orphan!
You have given hurting people permission to grieve, and for however long it takes.
I can't find how to follow your blog however for updates.

Lori - September 17th, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Thank you Jen....lost my son in a car accident a year and half ago.......
Lisa - September 17th, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Wow. Thanks.
Caroline - September 17th, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Thank you!!!
Margaret - September 17th, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Jen, you said "as Scripture has clearly identified numerous root causes of suffering, some of which are entirely incompatible with God%u2019s character." God's character is never compromised in scripture. He cannot act OUT of character. All things He does is loving and for our good. He alone is sovereign in all things He allows and causes to happen in our lives. If God's hand was not in our hard, physical suffering, then there would be no hope that He is in control of ALL things. He causes ALL things to happen for His glory, our good, and for us to turn and depend WHOLELY on Him. Without suffering, I would not have been sanctified as I have. I think your blog post promotes a very low view of God which is unhelpful for your readers.
Heather - September 19th, 2013 at 11:34 PM
I think there's one big distinction here that must be made. God *allows* for all things, but does not *cause* all things. For instance, in Job it was Satan that caused his suffering, but he had to ask God for permission first. God Himself did not cause it. Jesus said the thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. If we believe God is the author of destruction, we do not have a correct view of God.
Tawnia - June 28th, 2014 at 5:20 PM
6That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other, 7The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. 8"Drip down, O heavens, from above, And let the clouds pour down righteousness; Let the earth open up and salvation bear fruit, And righteousness spring up with it. I, the LORD, have created it.%u2026

Lamentations 3:38
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come?

Amos 3:6
When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it?

Stacy - September 17th, 2013 at 6:53 PM
As the mother of a child given a fatal prenatal diagnosis at 12 weeks gestation, who carried him to term, who held him for the 16 minutes he lived (and then for hours longer), and who buried him in a cemetery not even a week later.. All I can say is THANK YOU. Your words are SO spot on Jen. Amazing post
Laura - September 17th, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Having suffered, having grieved, let me say, "Amen."
Rachel - September 17th, 2013 at 7:31 PM
Thank you so much for writing this. It was exactly what my heart needed. Our family is going through some very hard things right now and I find myself asking this question but even more heartbreaking, hear this question from the lips of my 7-year-old who has asked it through many tears. I have felt so helpless to answer his questions except to assure him that even though I don't understand I know that God loves us and that we will get through this.
Jill - September 17th, 2013 at 7:36 PM
All I can say is thank you. I have sat with these very words for months now and just never put them down for others to read. We are just beginning to heal from some of the most painful family experiences and how we have been treated and the things people have said to us are beyond hurtful. Our family will never be the same and yet, we will continue to trust in God and His love for us. Even when it didn't seem to be there and we felt so alone. I trust this post will bless many and hopefully open the eyes to the rest who have never walked a moment in the shoes of those suffering. God bless you and keep you!
Kim - September 17th, 2013 at 7:50 PM
God knows what we need & never fails to amaze me with His timing. This post could have been written for me, as today, we found out that my brother has Stage 4 cancer. I believe God is still in the miracle business, but nevertheless, I am in mourning for the journey that he's about to embark on. I do not ask Why, so much as How, how does my family get through this. I know that God will get us through, but it is nice to know that we have a loving church family that will "circle the wagons" & grieve with us. God bless.
Flower Patch Farmgirl - September 17th, 2013 at 8:07 PM
One of the 300 questions I've stored up for you: Jesus Freak by Sara Miles. Have you read?
This is beautiful, btw.
Amy Thedinga - September 17th, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Jesus wept when his friend died. But then he raised him from the dead. In Jesus, we have hope for resurrection. The same Jesus who instructed us to pray that things would be on earth as they are in heaven. There is no suffering in heaven, so since there is still so much devastating suffering on earth, the church has work to do. Should we bludgeon our broken with pat statements and platitudes and formulas: goodness no. We should weep with those who weep and comfort one another in our sorrow. But we should also point to the power of the resurrection. To the hope we have in Jesus to make ALL things new. When I have been broken by life's tragedies, I am so thankful for the people who not only sat with me in my darkness, but gently and lovingly pointed me toward the light. To remind me of the faithfulness and goodness of God when my weary heart couldn't see past the pain. Not fixed or preached at, but pointed toward the Light and the incredible hope we have in Him. In this life and the next.
Andrew - September 17th, 2013 at 8:24 PM
Are you saying that God is "ringing his hands" helplessly in heaven as all this happens?! That is definitely false theology.
Linda - September 17th, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Thank you for the wisdom given here.
Joanna - September 17th, 2013 at 8:48 PM
I think I share the same concerns as Andrew. Yes, we have a God who weeps with us and who is tenderly near to the broken-hearted, but we also have a God who reigns. God did initiate Hosea's pain (He instructed him to marry a prostitute, knowing she would be unfaithful). He did "endorse" Paul's suffering (not removing his thorn, but telling him that His power is made perfect in weakness). The Bible tells us that God disciplines those He loves, that it tells us we are true sons. Is all suffering discipline? Of course not. But some is, and it feels painful because He uses it to refine us somehow. Job suffered at the hands of the enemy, but who allowed Satan to afflict him? God. He is good and wise and compassionate and sovereign, and how all of those things work together is a mystery, especially to the hurting. We grapple and we mourn and we sometimes we wrestle and rail, but we simply CANNOT erase some of His attributes to make life easier to comprehend in the dark night of grief.

I think we need to be careful, in wanting to comfort the hurting and defend God from accusations of being evil and unfair, that we don't ignore the full counsel of Scripture.
monda - September 18th, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Puzzled at the Prospect - September 21st, 2013 at 8:28 PM
This has been on my mind a lot lately -- this idea that God cannot cause suffering. I keep going back to the fact that God was the one who offered Job up to Satan. Satan did not ask permission to work on Job. God instigated that -- "Have you considered My servant Job?" I find this oddly comforting.
Leah - September 17th, 2013 at 9:38 PM
Can only say thank you for such timely words. I am 26-years old and come from a very close-knit family with lots of aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Five weeks ago one of my cousins was tragically killed in a car accident. He was eighteen years old. We were all in shock when we heard the news. That first week felt like an eternity. I know the grieving process is going to be long and hard. Sometimes all we need is someone to hold our hands while we weep and sob. We don't want someone to give us poetic words about how everything is going to be okay. I know the Lord is Sovereign and I know I will see my cousin again in Heaven one day. But for now I weep. I need people to know that I'm not having a crisis of faith, but that I will cry for a long time about this.
Sara McNutt - September 17th, 2013 at 10:03 PM
We lost our only daughter this past April 26th, 2013 at 30 weeks and 1 day in my belly. I linked to this post today in my blog because you've stated difficult truths so succinctly and beautifully. If there's one thing that's completely unpalatable, it's "Christian" platitudes.
I would't have chosen our story in a million years. I want my sweet girl back. I want her in my arms. I want to rock and nurse every night and lay her down while tears roll down my cheeks as I stare at her chubby perfection. I want her back more than I want my next breath. But the impossible conundrum for me is that while I wouldn't have chosen this story, I wouldn't trade it either. I wouldn't want to be who I was before this. God has produced depth and compassion in me that simply couldn't be there without having been in the trenches myself. He's drawn me nearer to himself and wrapped me tighter in his love and grace than I ever knew was possible when the darkness seems crushing and debilitating.
All I can say is, Amen to this. Amen.
Rebecca - September 19th, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Sara - what a beautiful post and what a beautiful person you must be. I lost a baby last year and I felt the similar. When you said you wanted her back more than I want my next breath ... yes, that. And when you said that you wouldn't trade it - I agree too. I too am not the same person and I believe I have become a much more compassionate person.

I am now pregnant again and each day I pray that God will simply walk with me, hold me, and surround me with loving people, no matter the outcome of the next ultrasound, the next test. I don't ask for specific outcomes. Just that He will walk with me.
MEC - September 23rd, 2013 at 12:21 PM
I am completely blown away by the depth of your love and trust in God. You are a beautiful soul.
CeCe - September 17th, 2013 at 10:10 PM
I beat breast cancer last year and for four short months, I was free of it. Now I have stage 4 and the statistics are horrible. People ask me "Why would God give me this cancer?" I respond that since the fall of Adam, we live in a broken world. PERIOD. My cancer is part of that broken world. The world God created was perfect and we jacked it up. Still praying for a complete miracle-that he will cast my cancer to the east and west, never to return again. But I will be healed either this side of heaven or the other.
kristen - October 6th, 2013 at 6:24 PM
Yes. There is sickness and death because there is sin in this world. Not our sin - just sin. And in the sense that God has allowed sin, he allows us to suffer. But His grace is sufficient and He is made strong in our weakness. He can give us strength and peace to deal with our suffering. God bless you.
Kathy - September 17th, 2013 at 10:43 PM
I recently attended a reading by Pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber from her book Pastrix and I was struck by her repeated reference to experiencing God through some form of "death and resurrection - the recurring
experience of seeing the emptiness, weeping over our inability to fill it or even understand it, and then listening to the sound of God speaking our names and telling God's story". As I am now in the process of facing the slow sad deterioration of my parents' physical and mental heath Nadia's perspective helps me accept the constant "death and resurrection" of life's events that bring us ever closer in our relationship to God who gave his only son for all of us.
Patty - September 17th, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Hold me; let me cry until I stop crying.

Brenda Baird - September 17th, 2013 at 11:36 PM
Simply beautiful! Crying... :)
Jawan - September 18th, 2013 at 12:15 AM
And to put your words to song, get the Kleenex because we need the reminder of the gospel that we daily forget (I know I do!)... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qyUPz6_TciY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqyUPz6_TciY
Matt - September 18th, 2013 at 2:02 AM
Or perhaps there are no gods. You can't credit god for all the good things without also discrediting him for the bad.
Christina - October 3rd, 2013 at 12:06 AM
Matt, agreed.

I don't believe it has anything to do with gods/ devils etc. The universe is indifferent and good and bad things happen to everyone. It's hard for me to grasp people who have had a child survive a horrible illness or cancer and hear the parents say " god answered our prayers ." While in other hospital rooms all over this country, apparently god didn't answer theirs because their children will die.
Brad L. Burge - September 18th, 2013 at 5:33 AM
What is the Purpose of Suffering?
Suffering entered this corporeal world as a result of mankind not trusting God. Thus, we should trust God.

God's promises are certain. God has promised an eternity without suffering to those that trust in God's Son, Jesus Christ the Lord.

Eternity is an infinitely longer time period than this corporeal life. Christians must evaluate all things in the scope of eternity.

Suffering will exist in this life, until Jesus returns to end it. As long as we exist corporeally, we will have to live with suffering.

Therefore, what is the purpose of suffering? Suffering is a reminder of the result of not trusting God. So, at each moment that we are reminded by suffering, we must shift our thinking and thank God for God's certain promise of our eternal existence without suffering and the relatively extreme brevity of our existence in this suffering world.

James 4:13-14
Now listen, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money." Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.

Acts 16:16-34
Paul and Silas in Prison
Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of money for her owners by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, "These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved." She kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so troubled that he turned around and said to the spirit, "In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!" At that moment the spirit left her.
When the owners of the slave girl realized that their hope of making money was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to face the authorities. They brought them before the magistrates and said, "These men are Jews, and are throwing our city into an uproar by advocating customs unlawful for us Romans to accept or practice."
The crowd joined in the attack against Paul and Silas, and the magistrates ordered them to be stripped and beaten. After they had been severely flogged, they were thrown into prison, and the jailer was commanded to guard them carefully. Upon receiving such orders, he put them in the inner cell and fastened their feet in the stocks.
About midnight [after shifting their thinking regarding their suffering] Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them. Suddenly there was such a violent earthquake that the foundations of the prison were shaken. At once all the prison doors flew open, and everybody's chains came loose [Our prison doors and chains will also soon be no more]. The jailer woke up, and when he saw the prison doors open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself because he thought the prisoners had escaped. But Paul shouted, "Don't harm yourself! We are all here!"
The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved%u2014you and your household." Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his family were baptized. The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; he was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God%u2014he and his whole family [Others can witness our response to suffering and desire to know Jesus Christ the Lord].
[Text within brackets is my comments]
Joe - September 18th, 2013 at 6:05 AM
I'm really glad that this blog post was able to help some people%u2026 However, personally I don't understand what she said a different than what most Christians say. She just, again just to me, seemed to Couch it in dramatic imagery. But the points were all the same. We can't understand God so don't ask why. We don't need to know why. God is a mystery. Having been a Christian for over 30 years I don't see the difference, or I need help seeing the difference between what she is saying, and typical religious/Christian catchphrase responses. Maybe someone here can help me explain why this was different.
Audra - September 18th, 2013 at 6:14 AM
Beautiful song and words from John Piper on this topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyUPz6_TciY
Christi - September 18th, 2013 at 6:19 AM
Thank you! Love this. :)
Stacy - September 18th, 2013 at 7:00 AM
Jen, Have you read Good Grief! by Erica McNeal? It is an incredible book that deals with this same topic, but also tells you what not to say, what to say, and how to actually help people who are hurting. She is a young cancer survivor (two or three times), buried her child, has had miscarriages, and an adoption that went wrong. She explains why Christian cliches are hurtful instead of helpful and then gives suggestions of what to say instead. When my husband died, a friend gave the book to me. I didn't want to read a book about grief. But after so many people said such hurtful things to me, I read it. I'm so glad I did and bought a few books for family members and said, "If you really want to help me, read this, then do it!"
Amy - September 18th, 2013 at 7:07 AM
Joe, the difference I see is that in Jen's post there is no shame in grieving. No shame in being hurt by life's turns. No pressure to become a pillar of strength. No pressure to understand and demystify.
I had a teenage friend die. I was close to his mom's age. The worst comment from a highly Christian friend was "God will use this for good for the church". I could have given a shit what God used it for. Today, even after 15 years I just want my friend back. Don't give someone that kind of pressure! The question of why always has to be answered by Christians...I read from Jen, stop the talk, begin the bearing with one another. Shut up and listen and mourn. To me, that's a huge difference. My friend who decided what the death was for? I haven't had the energy to even spend time with her since.
Tricia - September 18th, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Amen and Amen!
Rachel - September 18th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
I struggle with this. I don't understand why God does not intervene when there is true innocent suffering: the recent rape of the 5 year old girl, people born into the North Korean camps, children sold in human trafficking as sex slaves. I could go on and on. I'm sure the child being raped/beaten is crying out to God begging for help.
Linda - September 18th, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Finally, someone whose eyes are open and is clothed in logic and wisdom, understands the why-s. Absolutely stunning words of explanation and thoughts of a reflective Christian. Thank you so much for this article. I will be sharing it.
Tyler Richards, AOJN - September 18th, 2013 at 10:07 AM
I think something your blog leaves out is the fact that while life is hard, and we suffer, we do not do so alone. God suffers with us and is present to us and with us in the midst of our pain.
Tonia Booker - September 18th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
I lost my mom to ALS (Lou Gehrig's) almost 6 years ago. I have never seen a woman glorify God more than her in her suffering. She continues to teach me.
I lost my father this past summer.
Grief is an all over body experience, painful and beautiful. I have felt closer to God and yet such intense pain.
Thank you Jen for bringing perfect words to define what I feel and encourage my heart that Jesus is as close as my very breath.
Bless you! Bless you!
Fran - September 18th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
I have no idea if you will even see this, but mercy what a timely word. I have a coworker whose niece's husband died in a car accident 3 weeks ago, pregnant at 20 weeks on the verge of possibly losing this baby, a confused and sad 6 year old boy who doesn't understand any of this, alcoholics around trying to tell her what is right, and other family members who are dealing with way more than anyone ever should. ITS JUST NOT FAIR and we are all at a loss for what to say. I read this article yesterday and now printed it off for my coworker and trust that God will bring some sort of comfort to her and her family as they try to even breathe. Thank you Jen. I appreciate you.

Cara - September 18th, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Hi Jen, I'm a recent fan of yours. My friends & I heard you at the Women of Faith conference in Peoria, IL. My friend Kara has always raved about you, but I hadn't read your blog. When you mentioned it onstage, I looked it up right then. I had to stifle my laughter about your TODAY show experience in the middle of the conference.... oops! :) So, I was reading your suffering post today and I was reminded of when I was in NYC this past March and got interviewed for exploregod.com. After I got back, I couldn't remember the site name for the life of me, and your intro (about the Austin church coming together) intrigued me (and sounded so familiar to how they had explained their project)... so I went to the website and bang, there I was (well about 5 seconds of me, ha). Anyway, I didn't know if what you were talking about what associated with this website or not. It sounded to similar to not be. Thanks for all you do, your ministry, your mission, your sacrifice. I'm in the middle of 7, and I think the Mom's Group I attend is going to start a discussion on it. Thanks for being a catalyst to a great conversation & hopefully life changes! Best wishes on your HGTV series! I will be a faithful follower! :) Blessings!
Debster - September 18th, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Oh! the blessings that come from your act of obedience and discipline in the Word, Jen Hatmaker! Continue please, so that we can ALL wrestle out our faith in the open for others to hear, read and question. May we all remember that God is capable of taking our questions, mis-understandings and fears and turning them to glorious things for His Purpose. You Go Jen! Live it out.
Laura - September 18th, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Thank you so much for this! My brother passed away in June. He suffered from a disease for 10 years, then 3 weeks before he passed he was diagnosed with an aggressive form of leukemia. No matter how many times someone tells me that he is no longer suffering and he is now in the place we all long to be - with the Lord - my heart still grieves that he is not here. And while I am still mourning, the world has moved on and assumes that I have too. I cry in my car, I cry while getting ready in the morning, I cry at my desk, and I cry in my bed. Grief goes on long after the funeral and is not consoled by platitudes and trite responses. May we all learn to weep with those who weep instead of brisking them along as if their pain has reached its statute of limitations. Thank you, Jen!
Elizabeth - September 18th, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Thank you that while your blog is funny, pokes fun at life and yourself, it also go deep. You are refreshingly real and honest as is this post. Your words are true and necessary. They also ring true to my recent *rough patch* as I like to call it. Suffering sucks. If it didn't, Jesus probably wouldn't have asked for it to be taken from him. He obediently and honestly walked through his suffering. I'm so thankful God has walked this road which allows me to have a shot at doing the same.
Sharon - September 18th, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Some very good points here. I would add that having a deep understanding that God is GOOD always and is without any desire to harm is very helpful in finding peace in the midst of the storm.
Stefani - September 18th, 2013 at 4:36 PM
The best gifts anyone has ever given to me when I'm hurting is to hug and cry and to not be the first to let go... to just BE with me. And in that way, I look back and see how some of my worst times were also some of my 'best' too, even though it feels weird to say that.
Marie - September 18th, 2013 at 9:39 PM
Will of God May the most just, most high, and most amiable will of God be done I all things, may it be praised and magnified forever. Amen
Carol - September 18th, 2013 at 10:54 PM

In these last days human secularism is creeping into the church more and more... teaching all types of heresies mainly the worship and the coddling of people... throwing out the worship of God and His Holiness.

In these last days let us all continue to encourage folks to rejoice in the Lord... for He is our Only Hope. He is our only Savior. He is our only true comforter. He is the author and finisher of our faith. He is the Only one who reveals the Father to us... building our Faith in Him. We cannot please God without Faith. All the good deeds in the world are nothing without Faith. From Faith we do good works. Without Faith we are nothing and have nothing but only lost and in desperate need of God... especially for life after this life.

No man can save us but Jesus Christ. Let us focus on Him, let us point others to Him, let us rejoice in Him and follow Him and Praise His Holy name! Let us stop coddling sinful men... who never want to repent nor feel they need to repent. Pray they will be humbled and receive a godly sorrow for their sin... that they may repent... and be saved through Jesus Christ.

The anti-Christ spirit is in the world to convert the hearts of men to men... and away from God. Under the umbrella of togetherness, peace and harmony satan is striving to get the followers of Christ to accept all sorts of insurrections, rebellions and immoralities within the Church... even the acceptance of homosexual pastors and priests and church members. This should never be! This is an abomination to God! But they do not read God's Word to know God's truth.

These are the last days and our soldiers of the Faith, our forefathers and founding fathers of this nations understood and built this land on Godly Principles and Laws founded in God's Word... but through the years the self centerdness of our society as a whole... as we have progressed technologically... and most of our needs are seemingly met... many have forgotten to call out to our God... and we as a nation have watered down and perverted God's Word to fit the sins of men.

No one is talking about evil, sin, satan, hell, repentance, eternal life, the great beyond etc. We have turned Christianity into Motivational speaking... Only to encourage and lift up our ego... but never teaching God's full truth and never lovingly rebuking those who continue to sin blatantly and wantonly... so that they may repent and be saved through Jesus Christ.

We must be careful... I truly believe in the next few years there will be a move to unite the churches under the guise of 'Christian Unity' but do not be fooled. This will be the headliner and setting up for the anti-Christ's false prophet, a man who will become the worldwide spiritual leader over all these united ungodly churches gathered together... and they will worship the anti-Christ. When you see this gathering of these types of churches (especially the mainline churches who have walked away from the doctrines of the New Testament even excepting homosexual pastors) then beware and take heed. Listen to their doctrine. Is it still Biblical... or is it fleshy and ego stroking? If so flee from such watered down man pleasing churches.

There are still churches... but very few... who are still gladly clinging onto God's full Holy Word, Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ... for He is our very help in time of need... our Only Hope that is within us... that cannot fade away... but will become even stronger even as the true church is persecuted. Oh true body of Christ... are we ready... are we truly ready.... ???

Abide in the Word. Abide in the Holy Spirit. Abide in the Son of God.

In Love & in Truth in Jesus Christ,
Mary Delafield - September 18th, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Great article! So very timely as this came across my FB wall only 14 hours after seeing my terminally ill 44 year old sister die from an inflection that went septic. she was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in July and had been bedridden since the first week in August. She really didn't want to linger and this infection came on so suddenly, but may have been Gods answer to that prayer of mine! But we have just lost our older sister in February to a 5 year battle with ovarian cancer!

She was not a believer and neither are my parents. That is what makes it so awful! There are no words, only tears and hugs and as you say, that is worth so much in this time of pain.
Bunnyb1802 - September 19th, 2013 at 9:39 AM
I have lost no-one through death, there is no chronic illness in those I love & cherish. But in the space of 18 months my life has been turned upside down & in the last3 months I have been hurt, betrayed & wounded beyond all imaginings by some who I considered close friends & by one whom I thought could never let me down as he did.

I've struggled hard to understand the Why. I've tried doing the right thing, speaking words of faith & holding on. Then I lost most of my hope & a lot of faith. Yes, I got the trite words of comfort & the inevitable hopes that I am "feeling better", like I have a summers cold.

This post made me cry because finally someone seems to get it. Mourn with us, don't try to make us brave. Don't try & hurry us through the grief. Just sit with us. Love us through it, hold us & if necessary, cry with us. Don't judge us. Be with us. Answers won't actually help us deal with the grief. But having someone there, present, to be with us as we walk through it, that is a precious gift & speaks more of Gods love to us than anything else!

Thank you so much for this post.
Erica - September 19th, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Thank you for putting words to what my heart has known for a long time.
Courtney - September 19th, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Thank you so much for this post. My family of the heart lost a 22 year old young woman to a car accident in June. I know that in the first week of intense mourning as we struggled to celebrate Kim's life and accept her passing that the times I was most comforted were in prayer or when holding other family members. I look back on that first week and I know that there were so many times when God carried us through the next minute or sometimes even the next second. We have all struggled with how to deal with the comments by well meaning friends and sometimes each other in assigning a purpose or a reason to Kim's death. We have all at some point in the past few months asked why? This served as a reminder to put my trust in God - keep my eyes on Him and let Him comfort me. It also reminded me that it is okay to still be hurting and mourning.
georgia - September 19th, 2013 at 1:33 PM
where or where do i begin to leave a comment? i guess, first, read this...
it is about me. my dear friend just wrote it on her blog today. i was happy for her to share my story, as i cannot yet do so. reading this {which she linked to in her post} made me glad, because exactly as you describe... reaching across the table and simply crying and praying... is as she did with me. and has been the case for most people involved in my life enough to know of my loss through this time, whether literally or in spirit {over the phone or through e-mails and texts}.

i have been blessed to have a counselor from my old church to walk with me through the loss of our little yet unborn girl. she has never once been the "grief and suffering packaged up tidily but unrealistically" kind of counselor. she has only ever directed me to truth in scripture and made me feel that it is completely okay to travel down this {sometimes cyclical} river of grief. but i have to say, one thing she pointed out in all of this that has helped me so much is that God sometimes {as is seen throughout the Bible} shows up in big and mighty ways and delivers us FROM things. but also seen throughout God's word are stories where He delivers us THROUGH things instead of FROM them. and that helped me so much. i am not the first to suffer, and not the last. and i've been shown that i may never know God's greater purpose in all this... if there is one. but one thing is for sure... God will not waste a single opportunity to be glorified... in all things. i've been given so much permission to hurt and be angry and questioning and sorrowful and in pain among my circle of Christian friends... and beyond. there have been a couple {closest to me} who have not been able to mourn with me, because they are clinging so tightly to their faith that God would deliver me and my baby from this instead of through it, that they can not see my needs... to have those closest to me do what is more than clearly instructed in the Bible... "mourn with those who mourn." and that has been difficult, because they are family and they are the ones i expect to mourn with me the most. but God has provided other "family"... like the lovely woman who took my pictures and believes just as i do, so really IS my sister... among many others.

anyway, that is why your post resonated deeply with me. it's sad to think there are people out there suffering who are being told by their church leaders that what they are going through is punishment for their sin. at most, i can see saying it falls under consequences. but we also have a merciful God, and there has to be more than that. you are right... i don't think i will know on this side of eternity what this all means. but i do know that God is showing me so much love and care through his people these days, and i have heard so many stories {even personally} of women who went through something similar and see amazing ways that God used their loss. and so there loss was not a complete loss. and in our human eyes, it seems like it is the end all. but God has given us great capacity to heal if we let that happen. and when we can, our eyes can be opened to all that He might or has done. already, i see healing with the relationship i have with my sister as a result of my baby's condition.

didn't mean to write so much, but it was difficult to be brief, too. thank you for your post. it also made me think back to when my dad died seven years ago and a Christian coworker/friend sat with me and embraced me while i wept at work... never saying a single word, because she knew there was nothing she could say that would help, so instead she just held me until i was calm again. may many be led by your post to be more sensitive to those who are suffering around them. i know going through what i am is making me more aware of it in others around me... opening my eyes to how much it is going on more than i realized before this happened to me and i sort of walked around with blinders on.
Peanut - September 19th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
There is no God. If god is my perfect parent then he is an abusive one. I wouldn't stand by and let my child be raped murdered or hurt. I would step in and protect them. Social services would take us away from our "loving God" parent. All the burning babies in war? Oooops. God loves them. yeah right. Sorry to be so cynical but nothing adds up.
andrea - September 19th, 2013 at 6:27 PM
An interesting post. And as someone who is currently suffering through a multitude of issues, the longer I've had to spend my years suffering all alone, the more I wonder if God is really there or really cares. If he supposedly uses his people to help the suffering - tell me, where are those people?
In my darkest hours, which have been quite recent, I have felt the most alone. My faith in humanity and people I thought were friends and were there for me for anything - gone.
Where is our merciful and caring God in all of that?...
I believe in God. But I think if he was truly caring and loving he wouldn't leave us abandoned in our time of need. If he really loved and cared for us he'd send people our way who weren't afraid to reach out and listen and talk to those of us who are hurting - no matter how big or small the hurt is. Hurt is hurt - regardless of how "big" it might seem. It's true what they say that in your time of need you really find out who the people who really care for you are - or as the case may be, no one is there for you. When the going gets tough - people run for the hills.
My faith in people is broken. And I partly blame God for that.
Who abandons the ones they apparently love in their time of need?
Ariel Paz - September 19th, 2013 at 8:02 PM
For all those who are suffering, I feel for you. I too have suffered in so many ways and have cried out to God "Lord I can't take one more thing". But He promises to always be with us no matter what He allows into our lives, just as He was with Moses, with Job, and all the rest. My simple explanation of why God allows suffering is this: to draw us closer to Him and to teach us more about who He is. With every trial, every tear, and every hurt, I cling closer & closer. I learn who is in control, what God wants from me, and learn to trust that He does, indeed, work all things for my good according to His purposes. Keep the faith everyone and keep looking up!
Sonya McAteer - September 19th, 2013 at 8:46 PM
I became very ill when I was 28 I am now 49. I was told by so many people that my faith was not strong enough or I would be healed, During my sickness I became homebound and the only person I had to ask advise from was my Savior. I finally understood what was written above. Thank you for writing it. I came to understand my Father loves me but I live in a earthly world and a earthly body. I finally understood what it meant to either trust Christ or not. That doesn't mean sometimes I don't weep because of what I go through but I know he understands and this life is only temporary. He also showed me in scripture that the condemnation that was being brought on me wasn't of him. He didn't come to this world to condemn me but give me everlasting life. We have to make sure we are careful that we use the scripture in the way it really was intended. I didn't learn this from just reading, from my preacher, but by living it and asking my heavenly Father to show me the truth. Now I live in peace. Hope this helps someone else. He loves us beyond measure.
Cheri - September 21st, 2013 at 8:24 PM
We are in the CO flood right at this moment...perfect timing...powerful words that speak of hope and future ...and....you make me laugh, which could be the greatest gift right now in the midst of all the destruction...after the suffering post, i read about HGTV....love it!
Ocea - September 22nd, 2013 at 7:51 AM
This is a Godsend! Thank you, it is one of the questions I asked today, including why should I stay here. so beautifully written with such depth and compassion for all people and you speak to what doesn't work as well, though it is often not acknowledged. Authenticity goes far and deep in helping one another find love and connection through the pain. Thank you
Margaret - September 22nd, 2013 at 2:37 PM

I cannot help but to revisit this topic in my head and holding it up to what Scripture says. Then my husband pointed me to some quotations by Pastor John Piper about the suffering of Jesus and God's sovereignty. This is huge and helpful and right. We have walked through a bone marrow transplant and two brain surgeries with my husband and then 2-year-old child. God gave us the gifts of suffering for His glory. We are here to bring much glory to His name. Please read this sermon and have your heart worship ALL of who God is, not just what our human minds can grapple with. If we were to understand all about why God created ALL things and for what purpose, we would not need God. Oh but we do need Him. He is our Creator AND Sustainer.
Anonymous - September 22nd, 2013 at 11:01 PM
I sit here, reading this, and my tears have no end. I'm dealing with some depression and anxiety. I feel like a huge failure and everything that's wrong with my family and friendships is directly traced back to me. Today I didn't get out of bed.

And then I opened an email from a friend that simply said "Jesus says not be anxious, so stop worrying! Depression is not from the Lord- don't let Satan have that power over you!"

I don't think she understands the effort it took to even get up to get a glass of water.
I know this will get better. I know it. But what I wouldn't give for one friend that I asked to pray for me to show up just to hug me while I cried. Not to fix it or explain the theology behind fear and depression. Just to say I'm sorry, I love you, I'm here.

Thank you for this, Jen. Really.
diane - September 23rd, 2013 at 1:54 AM
So very timely. Within the past few weeks our group of friends have lost a sweet adorable mom to suicide, and then a young soldier friend was killed in Afghanistan. It doesn't matter how many years we've been walking with the Lord, when these things happen we're up into the wee hours of the night asking, "Why?". Thanks so much for your insight here. It's very refreshing, and again, very timely.
martha brady - September 23rd, 2013 at 10:41 AM
while it is never one of the early comments i make to a hurting person, i don't consider GOD's sovereignty something to tell a person and for them to "deal with". i have found it comforting. the two people who passed it on to me via their books were women who dealt with incredible grief personally. elisabeth eliot and joni e. tada. one was widowed at a very young age, later widowed again. joni, was paralyzed at age 17 in a diving accident.

they did not come to their comfort in GOD's sovereignty lightly...nor did many of the puritans for that matter...as they laid their wives and children in early graves! i think the comfort i learned to gain from this truth as i struggled to find comfort in the sudden death of my dad at age 54 and the stillbirth of my first child a couple of years earlier. (yes, that was when i was told to not question god! i knew that was bad advice!) (43 years ago now.)

as i read and read and prayed and asked questions...often pounding at the gates of heaven!, this was one of the most comforting truths that came to me. the what-ifs plagued me. what-if his secretary had walked in his office earlier and known he was in distress? what-if i had complained to the staff more about the inactivity of the baby? etc.

at some point, the what-ifs drive us mad if we don't realize that GOD is sovereign. this is the way it was supposed to be. he wasn't looking the other way or blinking when this event happened. he wasn't taking a nap. this was all within the eternal plan He had for me and mine...and He will use it for His glory and good purposes in my life as well!

life in a broken, fallen world is not easy. knowing GOD is sovereign over all is a huge comfort. it is not a battering ram to clobber people with. but at some point in the grieving process, it will be a comfort to the person dealing with great sorrow.

Shahla - October 9th, 2013 at 3:04 PM
Good true words Martha!
Mary - September 23rd, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Gina Perna - September 23rd, 2013 at 7:05 PM
Dear Jen, I'm not sure if I've already commented here, but I am ever grateful for stumbling upon this post from a different blog. I lost a daughter to cancer 10 years ago. Instead of being supported and strengthened by fellow Christians, those around me made me feel weak and separate when I wasn't snapping out of it or getting over it quickly enough. There's not much worse than losing your child and feeling like you are no longer good enough for God and his people. I swallowed my grief for a long time in order to placate others. That's hurt me more than I can say. I am happy to read your words and appreciate you.
Alex - September 23rd, 2013 at 11:05 PM
I have lost my daughter and my father. Two of the most precious people this world have ever seen. One never had a chance to see the joys and pain of this world, another who helped more people than I can count through his love and servant spirit. This song has helped many people close to them and maybe it can help some of you. thank you for the beautiful blog post! I have found joy despite the suffering...
I don't pretend to understand, but I do know my God loves.
Anonymous - September 24th, 2013 at 9:33 AM
I'm not even really sure where to begin or what to say for my heart has been heavy for over six months and continues to be heavy. My boyfriend (my very best friend) was out of town for work when he fell backwards off of an escalator anywhere from 2-3 stories. The fall left him with severe brain trauma, but by the grace of God suffered no other trauma to the body with the exception of a few fractures. In order to relieve the pressure in his brain a craniotomy was performed and for three and a half weeks his skull was stored in his abdomen. After those three and a half weeks a shunt was put in to drain excess fluid and his skull was put back. Since that second surgery he's encountered four other surgeries including a trach placement, feeding tube placement, a new shunt and a replacement shunt. It's been very crazy and very emotional. For about the first month, he was comatose with little to no movement/reaction and soon after he was able to open one eye and now has both eyes open, but is still considered in a coma with minimal consciousness. He's constantly changing and doing new things, but the rate in which this is all going is driving me nuts and I know there's nothing I can do, but wait and that's what I've been doing as patiently as possible. Since the day of his accident I've been with him every day; never missing a day in over six months. However, on top of all the emotions involved to deal with his accident and the never knowing of what could be or when or if he'll wake up, I'm dealing with his mother who actually hates me. Our relationship before the accident was good%u2026she considered me like a daughter. Now she withholds information, lies about what's really going on with him, and/or misinterprets what the doctors are telling her. I understand that as a mother this can't be easy, but the way she is acting, handling this, and treating me and others is completely uncalled for. I question this situation all the time because life was seemingly perfect for the two of us. Everything we wanted was happening and we had dreams and plans that were reachable and now I feel like my life is on hold and because it truly is. I refuse to give up on him, I can't, and I won't. For a situation that really has no answers because we know more about the moon than we know about the human brain...I really wish I could get some answers.
Mary Caskey - September 24th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Kayrn - September 25th, 2013 at 12:12 PM
I'd love to recommend a new book hitting the shelves next month by Holly Burkhalter: Good God, Lousy World and Me. In full disclosure, Holly is a colleague of mine at International Justice Mission and I love her dearly. She has led the Human Rights Community in Washington for over 40 years and the book is subtitled "The Improbable Journey of a Human Rights Activist from Unbelief to Faith." Holly has seen up close some of the most devastating atrocities of our lifetime and for much of her life cursed God and all those who could possibly believe in Him given the picture of suffering in our world. The book is a chronicle of her journey and her wrestling matches with the tough questions discussed here in your entry and in the comments that follow. It was a hug for my soul reminding me that the search to answers to these questions is all part of the journey itself.
Cara - September 26th, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Oh my, the "Jesus is as close as our own breath" statement...that brings so much comfort to my soul, and I am not even grieving. Just the everyday workings can take it out of you, thank you so much for writing this!
Kerry - October 1st, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Thank you for writing this. In a span of six months, my daughter was stillborn and we found out my husband had testicular cancer. It was a dark time. As a once strong Christian, I truly struggled (still struggle) with the weight of the grief. When you wrote, "we need not counsel people in the way of spiritual justification, for we know not what we say. Nor should we lead them in the way of tidy grief, for we heap burning coals on aching head," I couldn't help but shake my head in agreement. Living in the Bible Belt, that's all I heard. It did nothing for my faith. I've prayed for three years that God would help me find my way back to Him. I'm not sure I'm there yet, but reading this gave me a renewed hope that just maybe I can find my peace once again.
Jill22 - October 2nd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
So beautiful, Jen! I have always struggled with knowing what to say to those I love who are suffering. I try to remember that showing up and being there for each other and being that still, small quiet for someone, is the most important ways to show God's love. Thanks for the reminder! P.S. On another note, I loved your quote about our earth. Please, please write that blog post too! It's so important for us Christians to not only help our suffering brothers and sisters, but also our suffering creation!
Elaine - October 5th, 2013 at 9:00 PM
I wish I had the strength of you all! I got married to my best friend Aug. 4, 2013, left for our honeymoon on Aug. 5th, returned on the 12th and he was killed instantly in a car accident one week later on the 19th of Aug. We were married for 15 days!! I question God and am so mad at Him for taking the soulmate that He had prepared for me!!!! I'm so lost right now! We had such an Amazing faith before and now I feel like I'm in a never-ending gut wrenching Hell!! Please help encourage a sister of Christ who has lost her faith!!

Andrea - October 6th, 2013 at 9:23 AM
I am so very sad and sorry this has hapened to you. Crying with you. Praying for you today. May you be able to borrow faith from others while your strength is restored. I am pleading that God will cover you with His presence in a way that you feel it even physically. I am just so sorry.
Susan - October 5th, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I am so very sorry. There really are no words to be spoken. I promise you will see God- the night won't last forever. Don't walk this road alone, for in others we often experience God's comfort.
Elaine - October 6th, 2013 at 7:16 PM
I wish I had the strength of you all! I got married to my best friend Aug. 4, 2013, left for our honeymoon on Aug. 5th, returned on the 12th and he was killed instantly in a car accident one week later on the 19th of Aug. We were married for 15 days!! I question God and am so mad at Him for taking the soulmate that He had prepared for me!!!! I'm so lost right now! We had such an Amazing faith before and now I feel like I'm in a never-ending gut wrenching Hell!! Please help encourage a sister of Christ who has lost her faith!!

Kristin - October 13th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Hey Jen, I wonder if you read these. Anyway, this is a nice post. A hard one to accept and read. A few short months ago, on May 20th to be exact I suffered loss. Loss I never knew could or would happen to me. I am a simple person from Oklahoma. I am school counselor and I am a believer. But on May 20th I was brought face to face with the most awful loss I hope my eyes ever see and my heart ever feels. I was the counselor at Plaza Towers Elementary in Moore. I'm not sure if that even means anything to you down there in Texas. But if it does, you know what loss I speak of. I believe God was there protecting us. I don't know why 7 of my students did not survive, but I am working on being ok with that. If you are ever in Oklahoma, I would love to meet you. Your words, books, and blog have been refreshing and truth giving to me during my time of grief. Thank you.
steve - October 29th, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Can you accept the Mormon position about God and be a Christian?

1. Mormons say Adam is their God.

"When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body and brought Eve, one of his celestial wives.....He is our father and our God and the only God with whom we have to do" (Brigham Young, in The Journal of Discourses, Volume I, page 50)

Can you believe Adam is God and still be a Christian?

Adam was created by God. Adam was not God. (Genesis 2:1-25 Genesis 3:1-24)

2. "In the beginning the head of the Gods called a council of theGods and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it" (The Journal of Discourses, Volume VI, Sermon by Joesph Smith).

Can you believe in more than one God and still be a Christian?

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God....

Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.

James 2:19 You believe that God is one. You do well ; the demons also believe, and shudder.

(Even demons believe in one God)

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord , Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Mark 12:29-32 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel"The Lord our God is one Lord;....... 32 The scribe said to Him, "Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that He is one, and there is on one else besides Him; (The scribe agreed with Jesus that there is but one God)


(Scripture quotes from: (NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE)

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shay - October 31st, 2013 at 1:19 AM
I know my grief isn't as terrible as a death, but I've been struggling in college and even though i put in the time and effort, the results just aren't there and its discouraging and kinda painful. I know the Lords ways are much greater then mine, and i'm going to continue to believe that. This article helped me understand a lot about suffering. thanks
shane - December 3rd, 2013 at 7:21 PM
Why do kids have to grow up because of the things and tragedies that have happened to the
Emily Heitzman - December 16th, 2013 at 4:57 PM
Wonderful post on grief and suffering. This kind of conversation is very important. Thank you for this!
Dawn - December 24th, 2013 at 6:44 AM
Hi Jen I really enjoyed this post!! It is a question that many people wonder from time to time, and I have wondered myself. I love that you shed light on this question. Another article I've read talks about this subject and touches on why, the reason that God although having the power to end suffering isn't doing that right now. I'm putting the link below I think you or your readers will enjoy it. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/why-does-god-allow-suffering/
Paul - January 8th, 2014 at 9:41 PM
Plus he is keeping many of us from having a love life that he gave so many others.
Bill McKeen - February 1st, 2014 at 8:55 AM
Pain and Suffering:

I look ahead, I look behind, I look to the left, and I look to the right and what do I see. A lot of pain and suffering. In their faces and demeanor. I see struggle, fear and anxiety. I see tension. I see those who are suffering from mental illness and addictions. I see all those people who must endure physical pain. I see the poor and neglected, the deaf, the blind and the crippled. I see suffering in old age with all it's infirmities, And for what reason must all this be? I ask God for the answer and none is yet to be found. The cause, as the expert surmise, is for two reasons, one the free will of man, be it for good or evil and the other from the constant laws of nature, as in in birth, growth and decay with time and chance at play. I don't question the the system and I how it works. I understand it completely. The larger question for me is what purpose does it serve? In the aeon of time this echo has never been tendered. C.S. Lewis summed nicely when he said "God speaks to our conscience, whispers in our pleasure and shouts in our pain."
Bill McKeen - February 2nd, 2014 at 8:12 AM
Jen: I forgot to include my web site with an essay about "My Search for Truth" which is posted on an international web site out of Ontario, Canada. Thanks, See below


Dana - March 22nd, 2014 at 4:25 AM
Then how is it so hard to let go of a really good friend of mine He's only 29 yrs old, stage 3 of liver cancer. We have been through a lot. They're are numerous times him and I should of died together, I know god saved us. But, why take him from me, his children, his wife (who truly doesn't/can't deal with the fact he's dying. I'm the only friend who gives a damn if he dies. I will like my life has no meaning without him here.
I cry at night not knowing what's going on. My fiance understands to a degree of what my friend truly means to me.
What should I do?
Pat - April 21st, 2014 at 9:43 AM
I've been a Christian since the early seventies. Since then, I've seen other Christians (along with myself) who have struggled with numerous problems and tragedies in their lives, sometimes to the point of their lives becoming a bottomless cesspool of problems and tragedies. Many a time, I've wondered if God is really a loving and caring God or just the King of kings & Lord of lords; and does God favor some Christians over other Christians. I still wonder.

Blue - May 15th, 2014 at 8:53 PM
Pat I believe God does Love us. I think some people pursue a faith that keeps them from hard times instead of a faith that sustains them through hard times. And though some make think it shallow, i do believe there is a reason and purpose for everything and I think it has to do with true character development. The Bible says (Isaiah 43:2) that we're going to experience hard times but he will be with us. It means we're going to face some raging waters and some hot fires in life. David said "though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Death I will fear no evil". We are all going to walk through that valley someday but the Lord will be with us. Suffering are the fires of tribulation that turn ordinary metal into strong steel; ordinary men into men of steel. There is no growth or depth of character that gets forged without suffering. It just doesn't happen. Take thought in this that God allows you to go through stuff not because he doesn't care about you, but because he does care and love you like a cherished child and is grooming and preparing you for something eternal and bigger than you know. He is a mighty King trying to prepare his children to be strong leaders and warriors. I have suffered much and lost much but I wouldn't have it any other way now. It's about making a warrior out of a fragile little girl or boy. It's about facing life square on and not being a victim but a conqueror. It's about really believing and trusting God when he makes a promise or says something. And to be found worthy to kneel and serve not just a mighty King but a loving and doting Father.
Pat - May 28th, 2014 at 5:04 PM
I appreciate your not reading me the riot act as others have done when I expressed my thoughts on this matter. I've seen Christians struggle with mental illnesses & addictions, and other Christians go through devastating & heart breaking problems that never seem to end. Then I see Christians that have a happy life with abundant blessings, and they never have to suffer as I've seen others suffer. I definitely DO NOT believe that the Lord is vindictive or cruel (that's what a lot of people are), But I see the Lord as, well, like General Eisenhower was with our troops in WW2; he cared about the troops, but he expected them to do what they were supposed to do, and no excuses
Bill McKeen - May 19th, 2014 at 10:59 AM
Dear Blue: Nicely done. Good words to ponder and think about.
Dave - May 25th, 2014 at 2:33 AM
You forgot to add and you can keep your doctor.. Fact is that life sucks and then you die.
rose - June 24th, 2014 at 5:49 PM

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Jonelle Warnock - July 11th, 2014 at 11:12 PM
I am reading this long after its first publication, but it is coming at the right time. Our close friend's 12 year old daughter was just diagnosed with lymphoma and it is the the coming together of our community of faith that has been so remarkable. I love when you say "We may not get a why, but we know the how: together. Jesus is so good and He loves you. The sun will rise with healing in its wings, but until it does, may we all learn to be a soft place to fall, cushioning the blow of suffering until Jesus turns it all into glory."
Thank you!
Patricia - August 12th, 2014 at 8:11 PM
I was trying to explain to the Bible Study why God allows suffering. I do appreciate this article because it tells us we are the instruments of His grace. We are to be each other's buffers and sounding boards. We can't make it better, but we can be better Christians for it. We allow our defenses to drop, our faults, fears and failures become steps for us as we endure thru hardships together. We pray one for another, we endure one another, we cry together, laugh together and in the end, we are better for it and suffering brought all this to the fore front.
We give God glory for the things He has done
Steve - September 18th, 2014 at 10:10 AM
I think that as Christians we should focus on our response to suffering, not question why it happens. I was diagnosed with cancer two years ago and just finished 6 months of chemo. Praise God that the treatments have been effective. But I can't help but be a little disappointed....many people knew of my condition and that I was having chemo. Many of these people are longtime friends, and Christians. Not a single person asked me what they could do, how they could help, what I might need. It was the standard reaction from Christians: "I'll pray for you". I'm trying sincerely not to dwell on this. God is good and is healing me. But I felt alone and betrayed by so many people who acted as if this was no big deal and never appeared to once think that there was something to this thing called Christianity that would prompt them to offer to help me. I keep thinking of the hungry man who was told "go and be filled". So, the point here is that if you (or I) find out that someone is struggling with something, by all means let's have the servant's mindset and think to offer to help that person. Even if we think they don't want or need it, it's our duty nonetheless to offer.
Mike - September 18th, 2014 at 8:15 PM
Thank you for this post. In 1974, at age 9, I received a traumatic brain injury. With conditions adding on over time, I now have about 70 or so conditions. Note that I did not type sufferings these conditions, for instead of having to turmoil with these, I can survive and enjoy life. Much of what has happened to me has been of a benefit; it allows me to help others. God does not take glory in sufferings (I ;believe), but uses these gifts to bless both the one who bears them and the ones who are helped by such people. Life has not turned out the way I planned, but the way God can use. That is a reason I ask not why but why not. If something has to happen to someone, it might as well be me. Someone else may not be able to rise through it. But God has yet to flee in times of trouble He is With me always, even when I may turn from Him. Praise be to God, always!
Wendy - September 21st, 2014 at 6:42 AM
I so appreciate the honesty here....I have suffered a lot of loss, including the loss of my oldest son five years ago, and am facing yet another devastating loss. I have begun to struggle with trying to understand how God can expect me to continue to deal with loss after loss after loss and NOT feel victimized. God helped me through my son's death, of that there is no doubt, but there is only so long one person can continue to assign christian platitudes to deep human suffering including 'God has it all under control' and 'God is safe'. And shame on anyone who tries to simplify either God or the circumstance in that way! God does not always appear safe and often it doesn't appear that He has everything under control. 'Why" is also very difficult. However, in response to suffering in general, while it is VERY painful, God has shown me that through the pain He teaches us to rely on Him even more. The answer to understanding God in the hardest of times I think lies in false expectations. If we expect our lives to be pain free, we will indeed be devastated in our christian relationships. If we expect not to suffer, we will become disillusioned. In my case, even if we expect not to suffer repeatedly. God is safe but safety doesn't mean He saves us from hardship or suffering. Being safe with God means that He is always there and He will always see us through whatever this world can throw at us no matter how difficult our trials are. In that, He is completely under control. He does not control men; He gave them a choice. Just as it is a man's choice not to follow God, it is his/her choice to follow God. Freedom of choice subjects us to the sins of others which causes pain in our lives. When that happens, in His Mercy, God can still pull it all together for good if we choose to immerse ourselves in the Word. And that is how He is under control. When we gave our lives to Him, we gave our whole lives. Not just the happy part. BUT, he offers us peace for the taking if we are willing to walk His path and reconcile our fears, loss, disillusionment, despair, anger, bitterness and pain in Him. I have to say that I don't believe the church teaches us to cope with it. I have heard lots of messages about blessings, prosperity and joy from the pulpit but anything I've heard about suffering has only scratched the surface. No wonder we're struggling to understand it! Peace and blessings to you all!
consultgtf - September 29th, 2014 at 7:29 AM
%u2022 People suffer because of self-inflicted misery. Humans have long been their own worst enemies. We are a self-destructive people. Alexander the great, Hitler...
%u2022 Sometimes people suffer for the sins committed by others, which God would never cause, endorse, or initiate. It is contrary to his holy, perfect nature. Like HIV, AIDS.
%u2022 Sometimes WE think that people suffer though no human fault at all. But when you really dig deep into, we will know that there was human factor involved and God had no role to pay! Life was simple, but made very hard to live.
%u2022 When we see on the surface people suffer because people get sick and die. This happens to every person, family, and community on earth. There is zero immunity from death. but there will be a human factor involved.
%u2022 Sometimes people suffer because we live on a physical earth involving tornadoes, earthquakes, wildfires, tsunamis. Natural disasters are a part of any living, shifting, fluctuating planet. But if we irresponsibly plunder and harm it, the greater it will groan and creak and it will protest, as it was also created by God
%u2022 But always people suffer because we have a vicious enemy who loves us more than our God, we know it and that is the reason we adore it than our Creator!

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Sarah - November 24th, 2014 at 6:38 PM
A little late to the program...but I'd just like to say how much I appreciate this entry. Especially the end - "we will stand watch while you grieve." What a beautiful way to say to a grieving person that they are free to simply BE in their grief and that we will allow, encourage, and support them. As a seminary student, I cannot say how much I appreciate that one line.
brian - December 7th, 2014 at 8:14 AM
Walter Martins tape on evil and human suffering is the best ever on the subject
Rumishael - January 11th, 2015 at 1:25 PM
We cannot always abide to this promise, but we know that the Lord Jesus has promised to be with us in no matter what circumstance we pass through, He will always be there to carry us through. We are not always promised a safe life, but we are sure that God is always going to provide a way to pass through. There are circumstances we are delivered straight away, but there are times when we might have to pass through tough situations for the growth of our faith in the Lord Jesus. Sometimes we pass through these situations to accomplish God%u2019s will in us through Jesus Christ.
TexasGirl - December 11th, 2015 at 11:25 AM
About a year and a half ago, my husband confessed to having an emotional affair with another woman in our church. I would have left him had it not been for our 3 daughters. Because I didn't divorce him, my then "church family" told me I was no longer welcome there. They didn't ask me to step down from the leadership areas in which I was serving for a season or anything remotely understandable. I was told I was not welcome to go to worship services & do nothing more than sit in a pew. I can't even begin to explain how spiritually crippling this has been for me. It is soothing to my soul to know that there are at least some believers who are willing to walk with people through their grief and messes of life without trying to explain it away or put a time limit on healing. I am supposed to be "over it" by now. I'm not. I don't know if I ever will be. I wish more than anything that I had someone to stand watch while I grieve.
Lissa - December 11th, 2015 at 7:20 PM
The last three years have been filled with unimaginable sorrow in our family and we are still walking through the aftermath. Each day I learn of another person's pain. I've been a believer most of my life. All the suffering has tested my faith in ways I could never have imagined. This article has been the most comforting thing I've read in a great long while. Thanks
Rhi - December 11th, 2015 at 11:29 PM
Just lost my Mother my Heart.. On Thursday December 3rd.. The pain is unbearable.. %uD83D%uDE25
Meg - December 12th, 2015 at 8:14 AM
I will always choose GRACE and LOVE over anger and bitterness. Thank you, Jesus, for showing me the light.
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Rory - February 1st, 2016 at 11:01 AM
Love is a battlefield.
cameron - February 23rd, 2016 at 4:11 AM
I belive in god and Jesus I just dont understand why most people have to suffer so much I my self im dying of cystic fibrosis I dont have long im scared and terrified of a couple things one of they way im goin to die of suffocation amd what happends after I hope there is a heaven for me no more suffering for me but what if I go to hell I dont think I deserve to and why does he not intetvien in such things or why have these illnesses in first place life is hard enough I dont think we need more pain to turn to god life and death is enough im in hospital alot I see all kinds of suffering I cant c a reason for it like my pastor said once god doesn't care about ur pain ur tears ur sadness ur suffering all he cares about is ur faith that hurt me but I knew it to b true but what can we do to change what god does nothing im scared upset mad that god wont stop these terrible illnesses and why not what would it hurt to stoo these horrible illnesses that all they do is turtore til they r dead what did it help nothing so y not stop it I just dont understand y life is hard enough even if ur healthy ur still goin to die in a scary painful way and the punishments are so severe so hateful so terrible eternity in hell and punishment from adam and eve forever humans must die amd suffer forever forever from one mistake I have made mistakes I guess im doomed also forever have u ever really thought about how long forever is what punishments seems way to harsh as I gasp for another breath why I didnt do anything bad enough to deaerve this and I was born with this suffered my whole life never had a life but only pain fear for what it hasnthelp anything or anyone or brought me closer to god only brought pain to my loving family a burden to them and ssadness to see there son suffer and dying I have thought of all reasons y none make any sence but I still belive in my heart that there is a god but he will not help or do anything to help or hinder us he just watches and wants us to have faith in him and praise him I ask for what this life has not been a gift to me only suffering mybe to b able to get into heaven we must praise him maybe for our family we praise him but he didnt give me my parents cause he doesnt inervein in anything cause if he does he should of cured all these terrible illnesses and stop the suffering im confused hurt looking for answers that I will never get and I feel for all who r suffering with illness or death or people bein born deformed and have to suffer there whole lives I know how bad it is not knowing y or y god doesn't cure us but I really hope I reach heaven I hope its as good as he says cause this life is hell enough that y I still have faith that after I die all answers I hope will b given cause I have alot and I hope heaven isnt impossible to get I hope my little faith in him is enough I just want the suffering to stop for me and for everyone I pray that god will b merciful and let me in even threw my doubts cause im so afriad that there isn't anything better waiting for me or worse more suffering that would b the hell for me if there isn't anything better than this life I have been given
Starla - March 14th, 2016 at 7:31 AM
Is ther hope for someone who is sick / possibly even fatally sick, who refuses to believe in GOD? My husband suspects his friend may have Pancreas cancer, I suspect that it may be bone cancer. My husband is taking him to the hospital, this morning, unless his friend absolutely refuses to go. He's really stubborn.
Johanna Mogale - March 17th, 2016 at 1:37 AM
So much pain, so much grief.....unless you have lost a loved one you will never understand....nor comprehend......having said that it is up to us whether we choose to remain angry and bitter... or we choose to remember the amazing impact those departed had in our lives, to remember their love, their laughter every memory imprinted in our minds of the precious times we spent with them.....that is a start to healing....the why's will never make us feel any better.....and they may never be answered in ways that will be acceptable to our pain and our deep sense of loss.....I chose to focus on the good parts that bring a smile to face....and I no longer cry tears of bitterness when I remember....but tears of joy....I am just filled with so much love for my departed loved ones....they would want me to be happy and I am getting there.
Sandy - May 26th, 2016 at 4:31 AM
Thanks for writing this, i know it's an old post, but it's new to me. :) Unless you have truly walked through that shadow of the valley of death season it's a tough to understand all it entails. To know God and his love, grace and provision while walking through tough times is truly a gift I am only beginning to unravel. My husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at age 46, our kids were 13 and 15 at the time, that was 5 1/2 years ago, what a journey it's been to understand the promise of Romans 8:28 that God does work this all out for His good! thanks for sharing your heart!!
Sarah - June 18th, 2016 at 3:58 PM
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Kenny - July 27th, 2016 at 3:58 PM
My name is Kenny. I was Jobs kid (well i was in his first batch at least). What the hell did i do wrong? I died so I could be part of some cosmic display of Godtime theater for the world to see? i didnt do anything. I guesss God does make junk. My buddy Lakimyun was a servant...he got wiped out too. He didnt do anything either...we didnt get a second chance. ..a new family or job. We were just wiped out to be part of an interesting stort.

larry - July 1st, 2017 at 9:28 PM
Amen, 10 murdered children to play a game between god and satan. And the wife gets to have 20 more children. The bible must of been translated by the first three stooges. I believed every word and story myself, and when I needed god the most; he was a no show and blessed are those that mourn, will NOT be BLESSED!!!!
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Adam Regdos - September 28th, 2016 at 11:06 AM
God loves us so much that we can even comprehend how much he's love us. An bad things happen in this world because because we have free will an the devil being in charge of this world. God does help in the flesh sometimes but you people ask why doesn't stop bad thing from happening because God said though faith an grace of lord you are saved. So i believe or spirit is saved from anything you can think of an you will go to heaven. That's only if you are saved we all sinners an Jesus christ died for our sins so we can go heaven. That's the biggest thing he's done for us an people still ask for things from him an he still answers prayers after dying for our sins an rising again. Thats how much he love us. Now if your saved you don't have to fear death an this is god means that you will have nothing to worry bad to worry. But us in the flesh is sin that's why we suffer and die an or free will can have good things happen or bad. Yes Jesus was on earth he made miracles and healed people an took demons out of people in the flesh. But it in bible that doesn't happen as much anymore in flesh because it faith in god an you work down here here of spreading the word of God an an getting saved in spirit. So you see god do listen an you saved but most of the you are responsible for what happens to your flesh because doesn't really care about the flesh he cares about your sprint. So if someone coming after you with a knife for example you god for help or you protect your own flesh by getting self defense training an being ready. God bless you all
Joe - November 23rd, 2016 at 1:33 PM
I have suffered many, many times in my life but the worse by FAR is the loss of a child. Nothing else even comes close. There is no hope, no future and no fixing it. (No not even if this child is playing in Gods heaven) makes it any better. Just doesn't.
phumla - December 13th, 2016 at 7:39 PM
sometimes i just feel like god has created me to suffer and feeling pain and struggle somuch in life.ever since my mom died and then after it was my sister the one who was a bread winner now i have left with my brother and my sister's son sufferring with no one to help us even on my mom's side family and my dady's family they dont even care about us anymore since my mom death 2005 they dont even now our where about b'coz my daddy's family has took our home now we are homeless we a up and down sepperate ways coz of being homeless and a badluck of being unemployed.sometime im crying asking why my mom left us to be struggling i just wish she could have taken me with he instead of this life im living its verry painfull.and the worst part 2013 and 2014 i hv lost to children when i was three moths pregnant and sadly the doctors has cut both of my cubes so i will never ever get babbies. Its like im nobody im just walking empty container.sometimes i pray to god to just end my life theres nothing i live for than pain,suffering,struggles thats all im tired of this life its so unfair...
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Victoria Ripp - December 26th, 2016 at 11:34 PM
I believe that our Lord, Jesus Christ came to teach and forgive! We are made by His own design, therefore he knows our hearts, and that is our mortal beginning and end. Through His own suffering, I truly think he was teaching us to have true compassion for each other, for he endured a death that was impossible to imagine. Why then, if we believe in Jesus Christ do we not understand that our purpose is not to save, He has already done that, but to have an obligation to each other to do His work, for in truth we are all His servants and what a Great Master is He! He gave us the responsibility to love each other, that His presence be known.
Larry - January 21st, 2017 at 8:49 PM
I will put my suffering in here. My wife died after 45 years of marriage. God is as fake as anything can be. What a scam. If it is good, God did it. If it is bad, satan did it. It has been 2 years that i have been waiting for this Holy Comforter for me. I wasted all my life in thinking God loved me. So does santa claus and the easter bunny. My beautiful wife is gone and if God is happy to have her, then what is he going to tell her when I never follow? I have been thru greifshare, pastor counseling, and have a lifelong knowledge of the bible. It has all turned out to be FAKE. Sorry, death is final.
Mandy - January 23rd, 2017 at 12:13 PM
After a lifetime of suffering, I have to say God is not existing in my world. I feel like job. Only I'm not as faithful to something that has never been there for me. Plead beg and cry.. Your prayers are never answered. I think God is cruel, unloving, unjust and has never existed. I have tried to cling to my faith in him. But why talk to someone who proves over and over he is not there??? Where did my faith in him ever take me?? Nowhere.
Leonid - February 2nd, 2017 at 7:24 AM
i believe in god and jesus and all the saints and angels and admit tehere is evil with satan but my heart suffer every day seeng how evil has entirily taken all humans all over the world by taken control of all of earth goods and selling them for the money that were created to by satan with falle of sin bankers all the world is completilly tokken by the dark of a satan and all i want is that god would came down to earth and put the end to all evil that is completly overtaken in the earth every day i am filling my soul as a hostage of the surrounding me evil that try to destroy all humanity i prey to god that he will came down soon to put a start to the judgement day that we all people that having faith in him finally will have the rest and peace for our souls and out end to our suffer that making me cry every day
Stephanie - February 21st, 2017 at 1:12 AM
Well I was never a bible thumper and never will be, but what I don't know/understand, is if god wants us to love him and worship him and believe in him and so on an whatever else, then why make the ones who DO worship/believe in/love him suffer harder, suffer longer and live their whole life miserable, while the ones who don't give two shits about him or his 10 commandments or even believe in him live a wonderful life, with plenty enough money, great clothes, great looks, great cars, no worries and whatever????? I mean this whole worshiping a god who wants the good hearted people to suffer and the bad to live wealthy doesn't make one bit of sense, I mean come on now, you bible thumpers try to live as humble as you can to please this imaginary thing you worship just so he can pay you back by making you struggle and suffer and live a miserable life till you die, while the ones who live like thief's, liars, whores, women abusers and so on live a great life with very Few worries, I mean come on now, this is what you're worshiping???? I mean there is and never will be any proof of heaven or this great fantasy world after death, but one thing their is proof of, is this life with or without y'all's worshiping of this god of yours. I mean I used to believe in him and I tried to live a great humble life for him, but I came back to reality and just realized if I want something I need to stop wasting my time, energy and breath talking to something that not only no one actually knows is real, but doesn't want to help good people just the bad ones
Bethany - March 7th, 2017 at 1:47 AM
why do raped babies and beaten, starved dogs have to go through what they do? what is the purpose? and... how can Christians say 'just accept and ask and it will be given to you?' believing and praying gives them more money, better circumstances? so many posts from christians say they believe in god and he helps them! well, why do those, (babies and animals) that are unable to understand, have to suffer? what kind of god allows that? how can I have faith in a god that allows those that have no choice about knowing him, suffer?

patricia - March 14th, 2017 at 6:20 AM
If suffering is a given, because we are human. Then what is the point of praying ?? For the sick child, the soldier at war or the world in turmoil. If God says, "hey, its not my circus.....aren,t we "his monkeys"? If God is omnipresent....ultimate symbol of love.....a king of kings, are we to believe that he could not change things for the better. With less sadness, suffering and pain; wouldnt there be more love?? If It is through suffering that we learn empathy for others.....why, it is said in the bible that God wants us to prosper, in all things. And when we do well or are gifted with good health, aren,t we encourage to give thanks to God, for his gift? Then does it not stand to reason, that if we all did not experience suffering (in whatever form) would we not be more loving, generous and God like, in our efforts.? Would we not as sentient beings learn from Gods example ? Thank you.
Timo - March 31st, 2017 at 8:27 PM
The answer is...insanity. My wife has cancer. The holy rulers all come out of the wood working plying their insane lies, praying for her to get better. After her treatment she was not well. The cancer returned. I asked the insane to stop praying to the wrong god cause she was getting worse. Recently we got an operation that helped with her pain. The insane said, praise the lord???!!!. What? So when good things happen the insane thanks the invisible woman in the sky. Who do they praise when things go bad? The invisible woman in hell? I say just stop the insanity. Someday this mythology will be over and on to the next fake made up religion.
Dick - April 16th, 2017 at 9:42 PM
I have been Christian for most of my life. I have never understood God. I was told by a Catholic priest that God created me so that he could have a personal relationship with me, yet I have always found him to be silent. My suffering has gone on for most of my life, from others, from sickness. I find it extremely hard to understand what God had in mind when he makes human souls, places these souls in animal like bodies and then puts us on this dirt ball of a planet and considers this to be a perfect creation. I blame Him for a lot of things, if he is so all knowing and all loving he could have stopped Adam and Eve from sinning. Afterwards He curses humans for their mistake. Humans are by nature curious, He created us that way, and to tell Adam and Eve to stay away from the tree of knowledge is just plain asking for trouble. Then throughout the Old Testament God is really pissed and we pay for it. To me God is nothing more than a dead beat dad. I pray for death all the time. He says through his surrogates that he has a plan for me, that he loves me, all bullshit as far as I am concerned. Another thing that really annoys me is this notion of free will which is also bullshit. To me free will is God's get out jail card. He can kiss my ass goddamn piece of shit.
Ben - May 6th, 2017 at 7:21 PM
Hi Dick (and all Christians or angry readers of the Bible)

I can see why so many of you are furious. But here's part of the reason why.

You must understand that the Bible is written in ancient context.

I repeat.... in an ANCIENT CONTEXT.

Therefore some of those words and even stories can be
Interpreted much differently than they are understood in modern language.

In fact, if you really look further there is NO clear and explicit evidence of
an evil creature called the devil. The words spoke nothing specifically of this
Going to hell/devil story that is told at many churches.

As an example the word eternity was used 50 times. But guess what?
It never meant 'without end' in the Bible.

With that being said the Bible is still useful and we can certainly benefit from its
teachings. I'm all for whatever is good.

But yet we don't need to curse "god" we simply need more clarity and inspiration to provide
comfort when we are exposed to such horrible things that many of us simply can not handle

I think we are in need of better and more satisfiable explanations and understandings
of some sorts of why these things are allowed to happen to innocent people and
especially children who have had no chance, or opportunity.

How to handle this, UNDERSTAND, and cope with it is what's truly void.

Perhaps those of you can list your what you tell yourself and WHY.

The reason why I even started to look this up is I have 4 children.

They are beautiful happy, loving, talented, and innocent.

I remember when I was that child as well.

But now I am simply at a loss of what to teach them in all
Confidence... how to inspire them, or what they have to look
forward too.

Clearly life is no bliss and often cruel and down right

I personally am having trouble lately moving past how to feel good, when
absolutely ridiculous and stupid things are happening to innocent people
against their own will.

The story of that precious little boy was absolutely revolting.

What could POSSIBLY be the justification for that!!??
It's shat like that forces people to ask the near impossible

Ben - May 6th, 2017 at 8:11 PM
Here's more references to elaborate on the beginning of my post as well. Hopefully this helps to at the least make others understand and not have their anger directed at "God"

Clearly it is man that miscommunates these messages from the Bible, interpretations from churches, mentors, etc.

Prime Example: "Hell"

Many are using modern terms and linking it with a clear trip to a hell aka: an unknown place, of completely non-stop, infinite torment. However, there is no reference to their ancient contextual usage. This violates one of the most fundamental rules of "interpretation"

Quick Examples:

Johns illusion to the smoke as "forever and ever"...

Those words (forever and ever) in the old and new testament are used 57 times in reference to something that has ALREADY ENDED. In other words according to the bible forever and ever does not = "without end"

Having initially set out to disprove the concept of annihilationism for myself I began reading the Bible with an eye to the description of Gehenna and, quite surprisingly, ended up with the same verses mentioned in this article completely changing my perspective.

Unfortunately, it's one of those topics that everyone learned from their human mentors, who learned it from theirs, The word that Jesus used for "Hell" was "Gehenna". Gehenna was an actual place where the trash was burned outside the city of Jerusalem to keep their waste under control. Jesus used references to Gehenna as a vivid example of destruction, i.e., a metaphor for perishing. The fire was always burning in Gehenna but items in the fire do not continue to burn forever.

Bible tells us that only God is immortal. (1 Timothy 6:16) Humans can be only immortal in the PRESENCE OF GOD. (1 Timothy 6:13)

Furthermore, there is not even one verse in the entire Bible that teaches the supposed "immortality of the soul" doctrine so prevalent in most 'Christian theology'. Instead, it is made very clear that only God has eternal life, and He bestows immortality only to those whom He chooses%u2014not to everyone. In reading the Bible for its plain meaning, there is no reason to feel obligated to believe that human beings will be kept alive in a never-ending, torturous Hell.

More examples:

The "lake of fire" ...

John described the dramatic events that took place at the close of the millennium. He uses the same words as John and Peter (the earth) and the agent of the punishment (fire)

Hell: "Hell as a place of punishment will be this earth turned into a lake of fire at the day of Judgement"

According to the Bible is states that they will be punished according to their "works" however there is no set 'quantifiable' time. Noone can answer this question precisely because it's not in the bible.

Issah says of that "fire" " Behold, they shall be stubble, the fire shall burn them, they not shall not be able to deliver themselves from the power of that flame.

But Jeremiah also said: Jerusalem, will burn with a "fire" that would not be "quenched". However... it indeed burned... and it indeed only went to ashes.

if you read carefully the bible itself uses the word "quench" differently than we use in our modern dictionary. It does not mean that the fire can or does NOT go out.


Who even wrote the holy bible?

Many people wrote many sacred texts, but Constantine complied what is today known as the Bible that includes the New Testament. He made extensive additions, deletions, and changes in the stories, as a comparison of the KJV and older manuscripts prove.

Did you know that Jesus never said "repent". He used two words instead: Metanoeo and Metamellamai. These mean respectively - change your way of thinking and change your way of emoting.

Ben - May 6th, 2017 at 11:29 PM

I'm with you.

For me it's more about whats the PURPOSE
for all this suffering? I simply require more
perspective. I've seen too much now.

You can not dismiss horrible
disease and the innocent mindlessly
being hurt with:

"it's too bring us closer to him"

"god wanted the child home with him"

"it's because of sin"

"its a test of our faith"

It doesn't add up. It makes no sense.

If any of those reasons are the case why bother
playing games? Why not simply keep us all in a
safe place of comfort if "companionship" is the

We are supposed to be precious and priceless
Beings. We are supposed to live and be treated
with dignity and respect. (And that's at the least)

God, or no god, or whoever,
or whatever is god, (creator)
it doesn't matter...

With what we all have to face and seeing how fragile
life Is... we all deserve be clearer on why we are here and
why it's significant. We deserve to live with a sense of
certainty. We deserve that clarity.

Ben - May 7th, 2017 at 8:54 AM

I'm with you.

For me it's more about whats the PURPOSE
for all this suffering? I simply require more
perspective. I've seen too much now.

You can not dismiss horrible
disease and the innocent mindlessly
being hurt with:

"it's too bring us closer to him"

"god wanted the child home with him"

"it's because of sin"

"its a test of our faith"

It doesn't add up. It makes no sense.

If any of those reasons are the case why bother
playing games? Why not simply keep us all in a
safe place of comfort if "companionship" is the

We are supposed to be precious and priceless
Beings. We are supposed to live and be treated
with dignity and respect. (And that's at the least)

God, or no god, or whoever,
or whatever is god, (creator)
it doesn't matter...

With what we all have to face and seeing how fragile
life Is... we all deserve be clearer on why we are here and
why it's significant. We deserve to live with a sense of
certainty. We deserve that clarity.

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Edward - May 22nd, 2017 at 5:30 PM
The problem really is that people are believing a book 3000-2000 years old. People speak as though they know what God whoever he is thinks. In spite of everything the Bible says about faith it is not true and faith doesn't prevent evil. Jesus taught love and was crucified. Peter taught love and was crucified, Paul taught love and was beheaded at Tre Fotana. Stephen taught love and was stoned to death. Basically the world as we know it is evil and somehow we endure it and religion is just a survival technique.
Russell - August 12th, 2018 at 4:16 PM
EVERYBODY knows a story is not accurately repeated after the 2nd or 3rd person. This is all perpetuated by people who are so feeble minded they can't possibly believe that all aspects of their lives are totally out of their control. And, most amazing, they allow themselves to live in fear of this kind and loving piece of shit. You die, you go in a hole. You may as well pray to a rock
Larry - June 11th, 2017 at 1:48 PM
I don't think that God thought how hard life would be on those that deal with a loved ones death. Time must be meaningless to Him. I have suffered for over 2 years with my wife's death and have not felt God's " love " at all. I feel forsakened and abandoned! Prayers did not work. Where was He? I really struggle to keep my anger in check. I still pray several times a day; and yet I wonder if He even hears or cares...Heaven or hell?? I feel like I am already in hell. Again, where is God?? Where is this "comfort" for those that mourn? God and satan play games with our lives. Job is a stupid example! He did not lose his wife! He was not alone. Where is God? We are all in earth hell till we die; then it's just a matter of your mind as to where you end up....Really Fair God! But I will be praying to you often..just so unfair!!!!
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