Episode 07

If you or anyone you know and love has ever had issues with their mental health, you know how painful it can be. As we conclude our “For the Love of Being Seen and Heard” series, we just want to remind you that there’s no shame in admitting that you might need a little help. Maybe you’re feeling low, or more anxious than usual, or sad, scared, or just off—anything that feels different or keeps you from flourishing. Our guest today is here to encourage you to take agency over your mental health, and as a therapist herself, she’s here to help us shed those stigmas around seeking help from a therapist or counselor. Lori Gottlieb is a renowned psychotherapist, a bestselling author, and a leading voice in the mental health space. Her latest book Maybe You Should Talk To Someone leads us into her own experiences with the transformative power of therapy and gives answers to those who might have hesitations about beginning this process. Lori and Jen talk about: 

  • Identifying the stereotypes about therapy and debunking them, plus what to expect so that you can a get the most out of your time with a therapist
  • Developing an attitude that mental health is just as important as physical help and that seeking a therapist is on the same level as getting a check up with a medical doctor toward whole body health
  • Jen’s personal experiences with therapy – and how she processed pain and betrayal, plus what it looks like to be in active recovery
  • Becoming aware of and taking responsibility for our own patterns, actions and responses to life events as it pertains to our mental state and interactions with others

As Lori says, “one thing that therapy will teach you is how to be your real, messy, imperfect, fallible self, but also still love who you are.”

Episode Transcript

Hi everybody. Jen Hatmaker here, your host of the For the Love Podcast. You guys, welcome to the show. We are wrapping up a series that I have just loved called For the Love of Being Seen and Heard. It’s been amazing. We have had the most incredible guests,  the most interesting, and important conversations. I could have done this series for another dozen episodes. You might remember today’s guest, Lori Gottlieb from her first appearance on the show back in our For the Love of Reconnecting series. If you haven’t already, go ahead and listen to that episode because it’s incredible. It was called Rewriting the Stories we Tell Ourselves. It is and incredible conversation like the one we’re having today because the topic we are hitting today affects all of us, sometimes in ways we wouldn’t expect. Today, we’re talking about mental health.

If you or anyone you know and love has ever had issues with their mental health, you know how painful that can be. Mental health is a huge catch-all. It includes relational issues, anxiety, burnout, and so much more. You would think with so much attention on mental health these days, this would be a much more open subject and yet all the boundaries that come with prioritizing our mental wellness is still shrouded in shame or silence. I remember two and a half years ago when I was just drowning and I sat in my doctor’s office with sky high blood pressure, panic attacks, tears pouring down my face and me looking him in the eye with tears on my cheek saying, I am strong. I’m actually really strong  and I’m actually okay. Meanwhile my body is breaking down and my eyes are just crying, I was still trying to deny that I needed help. So I deeply understand that. Thankfully, with such kindness, he walked me through taking care of my physical health and all of its like breaks and then mental health. I was on an antidepressant for a season. I had anti-anxiety meds to use as needed and they got me through that tough season. They helped get me over the hump until I was stable enough to recover. It’s just freeing to acknowledge when your mental health takes a hit. I  just wanna remind you, there’s no shame in admitting that you need help, you might be depressed, you’re off,  anxious,  overly sad , scared, or anything that feels different in a way were  you’re not flourishing.

You’re not doing something wrong, it’s just life. That it’s just life. Welcome to it. You’re just like everybody else. We’re all the same here. Lori, Lori has been blazing trails toward empowering people to really take agency over their own mental health  for years. She is a renowned psychotherapist. She’s a bestselling author, she’s a leading voice in the mental health space, and she’s gonna help us sort of dive into the transformative power of therapy today and help us de-stigmatize it a little bit. Her book called, Maybe You Should Talk to Someone absolutely captivated readers with its super raw honesty and profound insights into the human condition. It resonated deeply with all of her readers, including myself. We’re also gonna talk about social media a little bit and discuss really practical strategies for authentic connections.

It’s both simple and challenging. I just enjoy all my time with her. I love learning from her. She’s just so wise and so well-versed in this space. I think you’re gonna walk away from this encouraged and inspired. For those of you who are sitting on the cusp of saying, “ yes I think therapy would serve me”, I hope this episode serves you and I hope that it puts the tools in your hands that you need to say yes to yourself. So without any further ado, here’s my conversation with a wonderful Lori Gottlieb.




For the Love of Reconnecting Podcast episode –
Rewriting the Stories We Tell Ourselves: Lori Gottlieb

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone
by Lori Gottlieb

Aspen Ideas Festival

Dear Therapist Podcast

Guy Winch’s Ted Talk

Lori’s Atlantic Articles

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Workbook

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Journal

CONNECT WITH Lori Gottlieb
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  • Visit jenhatmakerbookclub.com and use code READ at checkout $5 off your purchase!
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