Hey everybody, Jen Hatmaker here, welcome to the For the Love Podcast. I’m so glad you’re here.
We are in a series right now called For the Love of Small Wins. The team and I were just like, “You guys, this year we need some victory, we need some joy, we need some hope, we need some good news, we need some small wins.” So, we have just put together such a great series of stories that inspire us and leaders who lead well, kind of these searchers of joy, finding a way to bring us along with them.
We need it, because 2020 has just kept pain and hardship flowing in constant waves. There’s no handbook, none of us were ready for this or practiced at this exact kind of year. We find ourself looking for guides, looking around going, “Okay, who has experienced some real suffering? How did you get through it? And what should I be looking for? How can we do this well?”
My guest today is someone who is offering us so much. She is showing up in her very own lifeboat to pull us out of the water and row us to shore. And she knows what she’s talking about. Today I have Dawn Barton on the show.
Dawn is a writer, she’s a speaker, she’s a self-appointed joyologist—we need that right now. Up until pretty recently, Dawn was ranked the number seven sales director in Mary Kay in the nation. And then took a leap of faith, left it all to write her first book, which we’re going to talk about today, called Laughing Through the Ugly Cry, which I wish meant nothing to me. I wish I could not identify with that, but I can. I’m really glad that she wrote this down, because she has a story to tell. She has been to hell and back several times. I’m not going to tell it all, I’m going to leave some of her story for the interview because I’m not kidding around. She knows suffering. And yet after all of it, Dawn tells us we can still find joy literally even in the middle of it. In the excruciating part. Before it’s over. It’s not this or that, or it’s not this, then that.
And I promise you she doesn’t say this in a tra-la-la way. This woman has receipts, and you’re going to want to hear what she has to say, because she’s funny too and warm and wise and she offers us some really, really incredible lifelines today.
So, I’m so happy you’re going to get to know her better. I loved talking to her. We stayed on our recording both before and after talking and talking and talking even more. You’re going to love this one, you guys. I’m so pleased to share my conversation with the warm and wonderful Dawn Barton.
Books & Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Laughing Through the Ugly Cry by Dawn Barton
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