Hi everybody, Jen Hatmaker here, your host of the For the Love Podcast. Welcome to the show. I just finished today’s interview in which I got super emotional. Today is a powerful conversation. Right now we’re in a series called For the Love of Being Seen and Heard. This is part and parcel of what I feel is my work in the world. To see and hear each other, to see and hear communities that we are not a part of, to see and hear, voices that have been traditionally silenced or marginalized, and even to see and hear our own selves.
So this next guest, the word powerhouse doesn’t even do her justice. It really isn’t even the right word because she is as tender as she is powerful. I don’t know what the words are, but Rachel Carle is someone I have admired for a few years, and for a million reasons. She works in so many spaces that matter; feminism, racial justice, the arts, activism, self-care, healing. I could really spend a million years listing all the things that she’s good at and passionate about. So here’s the high level on Rachel. She is a New Yorker, originally from Ohio. She’s a writer and an entrepreneur. She creates powerful online learning spaces. She’s a regular contributor to Cultured Magazine, Atmos, and The Cut. You might have seen her featured in the Washington Post, The New York Times, Forbes, Harper’s Bazaar, or The New Yorker. In 2018, she founded a really special nonprofit called the Loveland Foundation, which we’re going to talk about. It offers free therapy to black women and girls.
She’s moving mountains. She has a new book out right now that will take your breath away because she’s such a gifted communicator. It’s called A Renaissance of Our Own, a Memoir and Manifesto on Reimagining, it’s an invitation for healing and growth. This book will make us re-examine how we are in a relationship with ourselves and with one another. It’s a life-changing message. Here’s why I think it’s pretty critical that we have Rachel’s voice in this series. The crux of her book is approaching the power of curiosity and re-imagining it in order to dismantle the systems that no longer serve us that are predicated on injustice, all while building liberating new spaces. I think this idea of curiosity, of re-imagining, of looking at what is, and asking new and hard questions about what could be is the key that turns the lock to justice into societal change.
Every one of us has that power. Every one of us has a mind capable of unlearning, relearning, and reimagining. We are influences in our own little worlds and that matters collectively. That is so powerful. So I’m super passionate about most of the things that Rachel is too. I’m so committed to the work of anti-racism and feminism, particularly the intersection of those two, which Rachel and I have a fascinating conversation about today. I invite you to just pull up a chair to the table and listen and learn. Rachel has so much to teach us. At one point, it made me cry because it was so precious, powerful, and tender, and reminded me why she is such a trustworthy leader. And so this is a no holds barred conversation and I’m so glad that you’re here to listen to it. So it’s my delight to introduce you to the very lovely and fierce Rachel Cargle.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Photo of Rachel from the Women’s March in 2017 per Huffington Post article
“Feminism is White Supremacy In Heels” an article by Rachel Cargle in Harper’s Bazaar
Elizabeth Cady Staton
Ida B. Wells
Be the Bridge
Ebony Janice Website
The Loveland Foundation
Elizabeth’s Bookshop & Writing Centre
Rich Auntie Supreme Instagram
The Great Unlearn