August 2025: Catherine Newman’s Sandwich - Jen Hatmaker

August 2025: Catherine Newman’s Sandwich

“I stopped reading Goodreads reviews for Sandwich — somebody called the book ‘grinding and plotless’. I loved it so much,…. I want that on my tombstone ‘grinding and plotless’, like ‘tell me about it, you only had to read about it, this is my actual life.’” – Catherine Newman

Episode 80

Today’s episode is an absolute treat. Catherine Newman, the beloved author of both fiction and nonfiction writing, known for her sharp wit, emotional resonance, and profound insights into everyday life, sits down with Jen to talk about our August JHBC selection, Sandwich, which quickly gained national attention for its honest, tender, and hilarious reflection on real life in the messy middle years. 

In this discussion that feels like a conversation between lifelong friends, Jen and Catherine delve into the unique challenges faced by the Sandwich Generation.  Catherine writes so beautifully about the ache of watching our kids become adults—still ours, but not really, meanwhile exploring what it looks like to engage in the caretaking and slow grief of watching our parents age. And with hilarious candor, she peels back the curtain of what it’s like to endure all of this in the throes of menopause.  It’s a book that feels like it crawled inside our minds, hearts, and lives. 

Catherine also gives glimpses into how many of the characters and storylines were inspired by real life experiences, which is perhaps why it tugs so tenderly on our heartstrings and strikes such a raw and honest chord with its readers.

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

 

Sandwich by Catherine Newman

Carolyn Chute, novelist

Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel

The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan

Awake: A Memoir by Jen Hatmaker

Wreck: A Novel by Catherine Newman

We All Want Impossible Things: A Novel by Catherine Newman

Writers & Lovers: A Novel by Lily King

Heart the Lover by Lily King

Wild Dark Shore: A Novel by Charlotte McConaghy

The River is Waiting: A Novel by Wally Lamb

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