Hey, everybody. Jen Hatmaker here, your host of the For the Love Podcast. You guys, welcome to the show. A little bit of tears, and a little bit of cheers because today we’re wrapping up our For the Love of Community and Friendship series, which I have genuinely loved. This was a packed series of goodness. If you have missed a single episode in the series, I’m telling you, go back and get ’em, go back and pick ’em up. It’s been so hopeful and inspiring and useful and actually universal. Speaking of that, let’s talk about friends for a second. Essentially the stuff of life, at least to me, no matter who you are, whether you like a lot of friends, big groups, big quantity, or you like more quality. It doesn’t really matter.
The people in our lives have such a profound effect on our well-being, our friends and our communities, and our families. The way that this shifts and changes sometimes in life, particularly when something goes sideways or you end up in an unexpected place in your life, all of a sudden you really have to evaluate what are my connections and who is in my world? What have I done to strengthen those bonds? That’s when the rubber really meets the road and at that point, you are really hoping that you have created some sort of chosen family right around you.
Today I wanna talk a little bit about the kind of changing landscape of family in the context of friendships and our communities and what it looks like when our family looks different from the folks around us or different from what we expected or different from what we used to have. That can take on a million different shapes. Then figuring out where my community fits into a life of flourishing no matter what the configuration is or what sort of hard space you’re personally navigating.
We have such a good guide for this conversation today. This is my first time talking to her in a live setting and she’s effervescent and smart, and I was just so drawn to her. We have the very remarkable Emma Nadler today. Emma is a psychotherapist and she’s an author and speaker. She’s an advocate for inclusive and diverse relationships, which we’re gonna talk about. In her private practice, she does this valuable work of helping people understand and learn to tolerate their emotions and find meaning in everything good and bad, and build deeper relationships.
She has been fearlessly challenging societal norms and working to reshape our understanding of what it means and what it looks like to create meaningful connections and support systems. Not only does she obviously bring her credentials to the table, but a wealth of personal experience. If you’re not already familiar with Emma check out her memoir, which is called The Unlikely Village of Eden. It’s funny and tender and also hopeful and learning. It’s about learning to adapt and accept things when life doesn’t go as planned. Who doesn’t relate to that? It’s so good. You’re gonna just adore her. I’m proud of her resilience and her wisdom. We’re gonna talk about practical steps here on both fostering really authentic connections, asking for help, and creating inclusive spaces which she’s got a really interesting take on.
She has a daughter with a really rare genetic condition. It wasn’t of course, what she expected, and it’s what she has and it’s changed the landscape of both her family and her community. We’re gonna place that in the story. I think that her insights are gonna inspire you. I think they’re gonna challenge us all to look beyond maybe our preconceived notions and actively work toward building a world where belonging is more than possible for every one of us. Let’s jump in. You’re gonna love her and you’re gonna love this conversation. I hope you enjoy this episode with the wonderful Emma Nadler.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
The Unlikely Village of Eden
by Emma Nadler
Feed These People
by Jen Hatmaker
Dr. Robert Waldinger’s Harvard Second Generation Study