Hey everybody. Jen Hatmaker here, your delighted host of the For The Love Podcast. Welcome to the show. You’re going to be so glad you’re here today. We are in a series called For the Love of Funny. I have said at one point or another in this series that if I could, I would run a humor series six times a year. I am so drawn to not just comedy but funny people, and this is making my day–all the folks that we have in the series. This is my space and what I reach for, what I’m drawn to–not just because I like a laugh, but I’m also fascinated with the structure and the skill of comedy. It’s not easy and it requires so much work. I’m fascinated with the timing of comedy and the rhythms of it and how you build a joke or a story. I am drawn to this genre and the people who are good at it because they can help us find something funny in the darkest of times and really serve us with their storytelling and their observations right when we need it. I am grateful all the time for people who are good at this.
Our guest today is one of those people for sure. If you’ve been around me at all, this’ll be the 10th time you’ve heard me talk about him or urge you to sign up for his newsletter or buy his book or follow him on socials. This is one of my favorite funny people. His background and his original real job was a journalist, which is kind of serious, but then he stumbled into the good fortune of writing about politics and pop culture in a funny way, which is genuinely his skill. So today we have R. Eric Thomas back.
He is so good at this. No matter what he’s writing about; politics or pop culture, celebrity–he’s just a brilliant writer period. He’s so good at “funny,” which is hard, which he and I talk about. He was on the show a few years ago. We had a series called For The Love of Finding the Truth and we talked to him because at the time he was a staff writer at elle.com and he wrote a daily humor column called Eric Reads the News. We were just talking about how humor can be found even in the hardest truth and even the news, which is so bonkers and bananas, and that’s one of his honed skills. Now he took that kind of sensibility to his own personal humor newsletter. It comes out once a week. It’s called Here for It. I told him this on the show; I’ve never missed one, never. I think I’ve read every one he’s ever written.
His brand of comedy writing is my favorite, and he is the best at it. If he wasn’t busy enough, writing a weekly column and a weekly newsletter, He’s also a television writer. He wrote for Dickinson on AppleTV+. Plus. He wrote for Better Things, which I watched start to finish over on FX. He’s a playwright. He is a bestselling author. He’s written Here For It, which was his first book. And then he wrote a young adult novel. His newest book, which we’ll talk about in this interview too, that maybe his best work is called Congratulations The Best Is Over.
He’s so good at what he does. Since the first time I ever read his work, I made it my mission to track him down and make him my friend and I’ve done it. He was careless enough to give me his cell phone number a few years ago, which I have used with impunity and when we had a funny series, I knew I wanted him to come on and the timing was perfect as his book had just come out too. So, I want you to have all things Eric. You’re going to enjoy this conversation and you’ll see why I love him so much. So without any further ado, please welcome the inimitable R. Eric Thomas.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
For the Love of Finding Truth ft. Eric Thomas
Eric Reads the News
Here for It
by R. Eric Thomas
Congratulations, The Best is Over
by R. Eric Thomas
Reclaiming Her Time: The Power of Maxine Waters
by R. Eric Thomas and Helena Andrews-Dyer
Kings of B’more
by R. Eric Thomas
Lynn Nottage’s Website
The Getaway Car: A Practical Memoir About Writing and Life
by Ann Patchett
The Enneagram Institute
Broken (in the best possible way)
by Jenny Lawson
My Point…And I Do Have One
by Ellen Degeneres
There’s Nothing in This Book That I Meant to Say
by Paula Poundstone
For the Love Podcast episode with Anne Bogel